Adding to Jims solution the newer digital fire pump controllers with their
panel mounted readouts eliminate the hazard.

Also keep in mind that the overcurrent protection of power supplies to fire
pump controllers is the locked rotor current or appx six times the running
current of the motor. NEC 695 is specific in protecting only for short
circuit protection. 

However and heres the real danger fire pump controllers are permitted to be
served by a separate service, hence SUSE ratings on FP Controllers.
Depending on the impedance of the utility source the potential energy could
be 50,000 amps or more of inrush current. A lot of energy exists within this
equipment, be careful. 

To see just what an arc flash can do; 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iClXrd50Z8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h10ALIpD0R4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_ear4k-Jg&feature=related

Hope that helps,

John Drucker, CET
Fire Protection Subcode Official 
Fire/Building/Electrical Inspector
Fire Marshals Office
Borough of Red Bank, NJ


-----Original Message-----
From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jim Johnston
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:19 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Electrical Dangers

I recently purchased a Fluke 1735 Power Logger to take care of these
situations, it reads amperage and voltage.  To set it up you kill the
incoming power to the panel open the door and hook up all the leads, it has
alligator clips for all three legs of voltage and detachable rings for the
current measurement, then re-energize the panel and take the readings.
There is a whole lot more comfort using this versus the handheld multi-meter
/ clamp on, it was kinda expensive $2500.00, but lots cheaper than a lawsuit
and fine.

Jim Johnston, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Inland Fire Protection, Inc
1100 Ahtanum Road
Yakima, WA 98903
Phone 509-248-4471
Fax 509-248-1180
j...@inlandfireprotection.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew J. Willis [mailto:m...@norredfire.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:38 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Electrical Dangers

Actually the inspector is exposed to low voltage. (If it is an older panel
without the external indicators) And I carry all the gear.., face shield,
gloves etc.., to perform the test. It is always fun to reach into an old
panel with knife switches, after you are soaked from adjusting the pitot
readings.
If it is a newer panel, it will have an external readout, which is now a
code requirement. These do not expose the inspector to the dangers of going
inside the panel.


R/
Matt

 
Matthew J. Willis, CET
Automatic Fire Sprinklers
Norred Fire Systems L.L.C.
318-387-1134 Voice
318-387-1163 Facsimile
m...@norredfire.com
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ford, Charles
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:15 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Electrical Dangers

A question has come up regarding electric fire pump testing. During the
required voltage and amperage
tests, is the inspector exposed to harm from high voltage electricity. If
the answer is YES, do you,
(they etc.) provide high voltage protective gear and tools in accordance
with NFPA 70E?

C. Burton Ford
Designer- NICET Certified: Fire Alarm, 
Special Hazards, Sprinkler Design 
&Sprinkler Inspections
NFPA CFPS
Cintas Fire Protection-D-47
Warminster, PA 18974
Phone 267-487-1000
Fax 267-487-1010


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