Depending on the conditions of the project in regards to an underwriter or 
other AHJ requirement, contents such as piping, wiring, HVAC equipment, 
ducting, etc. could be combustible and drive an underwriter to require above 
ceiling protection due to the combustible loading of the contents, not the 
construction of the building itself.

Any fuel fired equipment above the ceiling?  Potential junk storage space?


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
craig.pr...@ch2m.com
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:48 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Under/Over Sprinkler

Above and below is the usual slang for what I'd think he means.

And maybe the contract dwgs showed above and below, referred to it as 
under/over, and maybe this is a plumber who doesn't know you don't need 
uprights in noncombustible spaces, maybe the AE doesn't care, they're on the 
docs and its plan/spec, or ???

glc

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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of James Zimmerman
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:37 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Under/Over Sprinkler

Has anyone seen/used the term under/over sprinkler on a set plans? Someone in 
my office has a set of plans where the contractor called out the sprinklers as 
under/over sprinklers. At first I thought maybe it was describing pendant 
sprinklers below the ceiling and upright above, protecting a combustible 
concealed space. However, the construction noncombustible (concrete floors and 
gyp ceilings).
The only details on the plans are for a concealed sprinkler on a return bend 
and a detail for an upright sprinkler.
I'm sure they will be contacting the contractor about the term but I was just 
curious if anyone here had seen the term.

Thanks,

Jim
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