Tom,

Did you find an inspector's test connection?

Byron

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From: "Tom Duross" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:06
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: NFPA 25 Inspections

> OK, I can agree on keeping current but what do you "hang your hat on"? 
> The
> 2002 edition of 25 doesn't say what it governs, neither does the 2008, 
> from
> what I can tell.  If we're supposed to follow a referenced design 
> standard,
> does that mean we follow the referenced maintenance standard?  EQ bracing 
> is
> a huge one, hanging and bracing just as applicable.  But what about simple
> main drain tests; quarterly, semi or annually?  I've asked AHJ's, the
> simplest reply I've gotten is follow the standard in place when accepted. 
> I
> can see that for hose valves for example, I'm not going to test an old 65
> building at 100.
> I just tested a system installed in 1923 near Fenway Park.  3/4" and 1/2"
> ends.  Mostly original pipe and heads.  No tags. 3 1/2" check (no ports), 
> 1"
> gate valve.  No EOL.  I scratched my head until I got splinters.
>
>
> Tom,
>
> Here abouts we use IBC 2006 for the next couple of months and then
> move on to 2009. The edition of 25 changes with the code. Since 25 is
> a maintenance standard rather than a design standard I believe it to
> be a dynamic document that changes with changing data (a presumption
> of the perfect world where the driving force behind a change is always
> a real need to increase requirements for the sake of safety and is
> never influenced by a real need to increase profit) and so makes
> perfect sense to "upgrade" universally. In truth it would be better to
> upgrade engineering in some old buildings just because they're old and
> not up to current standards (EQ bracing comes to mind--think
> Northridge) but the resultant inability to forecast future major
> expenditures while pursuing business as usual would be too chaotic.
> There will be unpredictability, such as tax rates from year to year,
> and increased frequencies for NFPA 25 requirements might be amongst
> them. The alternative could be a 1990 building maintained in
> accordance with 1987 13A or a 1925 building maintained in accordance
> with nothing. Whether his is a problem or not is a different
> conversation.
>
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