Gents,
Thanks for the feedback.

Ed

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Jim Davidson <
[email protected]> wrote:

> TO all;
>
> The IBC refers to ASCE 7 as the Standard for earthquake bracing, if I
> remember correctly the ASCE 7 standard in effect at the time of the adoption
> of the 2003 IBC specifically excluded NFPA 13 as a standard for earthquake
> bracing through the reference in ASCE 7 excluding NFPA 13 seismic bracing
> since NFPA 13 requirements did not meet the requirements of  ASCE 7. In the
> latest edition of ASCE 7 the NFPA 13 seismic bracing exclusion was removed
> from ASCE 7. Be aware of the version of the IBC that is being enforced in
> your area of operation since the IBC is considered the legal code which
> tells the designer, owner and design professionals what the requirements are
> for the building based on occupancy, construction type, ground floor area,
> building height and exposure to building.
>
> Jim Davidson
>
> Davidson Associates
> Fire Protection * Medical Gas * Code Consulting
> 302-994-9500   Fax:302-234-1781
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:46 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Seismic Restraint Standards
>
> We get those cross referenced type specs now and then.
>
> For mechanical piping, plumbing, duct, etc, SMACNA.
>
> For Fire Protection,  NFPA 13. SMACNA isn't referenced in the NFPA
> INSTALLATION Standard, because 13 has it's own rules to follow.
>
> SMACNA is also no longer referenced in the IBC as of the 2003 edition.
>  ASCE 7 was established as the accepted standard.  However there was some
> verbiage placed in the Code which would permit acceptance of other design
> standards if approved by the AHJ.
>
> So if the MEOR wants to apply SMACNA to Mechanical piping and duct systems
> he needs to request permission from the AHJ to use that standard.
>
> But as previously stated,  NFPA 13 is the applicable standard for design of
> seismic bracing for Fire Protection service piping not SMACNA.
>
>
> Craig L. Prahl, CET
> Fire Protection Specialist
> Mechanical Department
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
> Direct - 864.599.4102
> Fax - 864.599.8439
> [email protected]
> http://www.ch2m.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Cyr
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:01 PM
> To: American Fire Sprinkler Association
> Subject: Seismic Restraint Standards
>
> Forumites:
>
> General Mechanical specs often refer to SMACNA for seismic restraint of
> piping systems. Sprinkler specs often refer to General Mechanical.
>
> Question: Does NFPA 13 seismic bracing requirements take precedence over
> SMACNA?
>
> How was the battle won with the MEOR when he says SMACNA is the preferred
> standard for bracing of piping systems?
>
> Any comments would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
> Ed Cyr
>
> *Alpha Fire Sprinkler Corp.*
> San Luis Obispo, CA
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