I doubt if you can claim that the upstairs is 13D. Unless you have the appropriate fire separation, the whole building would need to be treated as 13. I would look at it as 13 Residential.
The test that I and a few others use id that if the areas outside the dwelling units are for use only by the tenants or are incidental to the residential occupancy, then you can use 13R/13D. Otherwise, it is mixed use and needs to be protected per 13. It sounds like you have the latter. Remember, the permit and the hazard are mutually exclusive. Enjoy the Cape At 07:39 AM 5/15/2010, you wrote: >I'm on my way out to do some survey on a new small project I have on Old >Cape Cod. Hoping to see some tasty replies from you weekend worriers when I >return. > >It's a 2100 SF wood framed 2 story, typical cape, shaker style. Full >Basement, First Floor is retail for 2 stores (one already leased) and the >Second Floor is two Apartment/Condo's with a small Attic Lofts. > >I'm pretty set with densities and applications but it's been permitted as >Residential, and not just Residential but as a One and Two Family Dwelling. >Yup. > >So now I'm wondering about the base of design upstairs. Can I include all >the 13D exceptions like concealed spaces, closets, etc.? The Basement has 2 >large storage areas for each retail space and 2 smaller for each residential >and a mechanical room. Ordinary One, steel in the Basement, Ordinary Two, >steel in the First Floor and just CPVC 2 head upstairs? I'm not sure about >the loft as far as heat goes so it might need a small dry system or >glycol/glycerin. > >Am I applying 13D with 13 outside the dwelling on this? > >I'm supposed to get a copy of the permit when I get there but that's what >I've been told. > >(too bad my survey stuff won't fit in the saddlebags, I'd ride down) > >Tom > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860.535.2080 www.fpdc.com _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
