If I understand the question, it can be boiled down to:
I'm subbed to a guy that is directing me to break the law.
You could transfer this liability where it belongs, XYZ, by advising you are
RELYING on them to fulfill the requirements of the FD notification since
they have the relationship (contractual) with Owner. Since you're not a
prime contractor, it wouldn't seem out of the ordinary to rely on those up
the contractual ladder to take care of reporting to FD and/or Owner.

Anyone who takes legal advice solely from a sprinkler contractor should know
better ;)

glc

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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
cherokeefire...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:16 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Elevator Equipment Rooms

I know the forum has discussed this before, but here goes: 
Sprinkler contractor ABC is hired/ subcontracted by sprinkler contractor XYZ
to perform fire sprinkler repair work, not an NFPA 25 inspection. 
Contractor ABC observes recalled fire sprimklers in the system. ABC notifies
XYZ of the recalled heads, as recommended in an AFSA paper on the matter.
XYZ insists that ABC does not notify the system owner or the Fire Dept.  
The Fire Dept. Requires deficiencies to be reported to them, through city
ordinance. 

Aside from the ordinance requiring reporting, is there a general duty to act
upon contractor ABC?

any thoughts on the matter? 
Feel free to contact me off forum if preferred. 



Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Thom McMahon" <tmcma...@firetechinc.com>
Date: Mon, May 24, 2010 4:54 pm
Subject: Elevator Equipment Rooms
To: <sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org>

I just go with what I'm good at! Sorry if you couldn't enjoy the humor.

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



-----Original Message-----
From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brian Harris
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:55 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Elevator Equipment Rooms

Thom-
No need to be a smart @$$..... 


Brian Harris
FDFP INC.

-----Original Message-----
From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:42 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Elevator Equipment Rooms

Yes one could! And you might prevail, at least for a while just like the
argument that the Earth is Flat. With limited information it sure seemed so
for a while, but my what a beautiful blue round planet we live on.

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



-----Original Message-----
From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brian Harris
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:05 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Elevator Equipment Rooms

Thom-
One could argue that  8.15.5.5. is only talking about heads at the top of
hoistways.....


Brian Harris
FDFP INC.


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