Brad- Here ya go... 2.8.2.1.3Traps and shutoff valves shall be provided in accessible locations outside the hoistway.
2.8.2.2 Ducts shall be permitted to be in- stalled in the hoistway, machine room, and machinery space for the purpose of heating, cooling, ventilating, and venting these areas only and shall not encroach upon the required clearances. 2.8.2.3 Sprinkler systems conforming to NFPA 13 or the NBCC, whichever is applicable (see Part 9) shall be permitted to be installed in the hoistway, machine room, and machinery spaces, subject to the requirements of 2.8.2.3.1 through 2.8.2.3.4. 2.8.2.3.1All risers and returns shall be located outside these spaces. Branch lines in the hoistway shall supply sprinklers at not more than one floor level. When the machine room is located above the roof of the building, risers, return pipes, and branch lines for the machine room sprinkler(s) shall be permitted to be lo- cated in the hoistway between the top floor and the machine room. 2.8.2.3.2 In jurisdictions not enforcing the NBCC, means shall be provided to automatically disconnect the main line power supply to the affected elevator upon or prior to the application of water from sprinklers located in the machine room or in the hoistway more than 600 mm (24in.) above the pit floor. This means shall be independent of the elevator control and shall not be self-resetting. The activation of sprinklers outside of the hoistway or machine room shall not disconnect the main line power supply. 2.8.2.3.3 Smoke detectors shall not be used to activate sprinklers in these spaces or to dis- connect the main line power supply. 2.8.2.3.4 In jurisdictions not enforcing the NBCC, when sprinklers are installed in the hoistway all electrical equipment, except earthquake protective devices conforming to 8.4.10.1.2(d), located less than 1225 mm (48in.) above the pit floor, shall be (a) weatherproof (NEMA4); and (b) wiring shall be identified for use in wet locations in accordance with the requirements in NFPA 70. 2.8.2.4 Other pipes or ducts conveying gases, vapors, or liquid and not used in connection with the operation of the elevator shall not be installed in any hoistway, machine room, or machinery space. Where a machine room or hoistway or both extend above the roof of a building, pipes shall be permitted from roof drains to the closest point where they can be diverted out of this space. Pipes shall be covered to prevent leakage or condensate from entering the machine room or hoistway. 2.8.2.5 Where permitted and provided, pipes, drains, and tanks, or similar equipment that contains liquids, shall not be located directly above the elevator equipment and shall not encroach upon the required clearances in the hoistway, machine room, or machinery spaces. 2.8.3 Electrical Heaters Listed/certified electrical heaters shall be per- mitted. 2.8.4 Air Conditioning Air conditioning equipment is permitted to be installed in machine rooms or machinery spaces for the purpose of cooling these areas only, subject to the requirements of 2.8.4.1 through 2.8.4.5. 2.8.4.1 Air conditioning equipment shall not be located directly above elevator equipment. 2.8.4.2 The clear headroom below suspended air conditioning equipment shall conform to 2.7.4. 2.8.4.3 Means shall be provided to collect and drain condensation water from these spaces. Condensation drains shall not be located directly above elevator equipment. Drains connected directly to sewers shall not be installed. 2.8.4.4 Safe and convenient access within the elevator machine room shall be provided to the air conditioning equipment for servicing and maintaining. 2.8.4.5 There shall be no exposed gears, sprockets, belts, pulleys, or chains. NOTES (2.8.4): (1)See 2.8.2.2 for requirements for duct work. (2) These requirements do not pertain to air conditioning equipment used to cool selective elevator equipment. Brian Harris FDFP INC. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Elevator Equipment Rooms Brian, Would you be able to post that section I e-mailed you- (the relevant parts)- it is a little vague, and some feed-back from the pros here might help you- I would do it but I do not know how -----Original Message----- From: Brian Harris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Elevator Equipment Rooms Thom- No need to be a smart @$$..... Brian Harris FDFP INC. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Elevator Equipment Rooms Yes one could! And you might prevail, at least for a while just like the argument that the Earth is Flat. With limited information it sure seemed so for a while, but my what a beautiful blue round planet we live on. Thom McMahon, SET Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr P.O. Box 882136 Steamboat Springs, CO 80488 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Elevator Equipment Rooms Thom- One could argue that 8.15.5.5. is only talking about heads at the top of hoistways..... 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