They sell smoke bombs at HVAC supply houses, for use in testing duct
detectors.

Forest Wilson
Cherokee Fire

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Finding leaks in a dry pipe system

Cold smoke like soldiers use for signaling. Pop a unit in the DPV,
close it up, and then pressure it.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:28 AM, David Bitton
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Thank you everyone for your replies.  We are still trying to find a way to
> locate the leaks without tripping the system and/or putting the freezer
out
> of service.  (The aroma therapy sure is tempting...)  If that turns out
not
> to be possible, we will explore the other methods.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Young
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:00 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Finding leaks in a dry pipe system
>
> Frank Herrick gave a good way to find dry system leaks back in March,
> actually.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg19989.html
>
>
> Benjamin Young
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM, David Bitton
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Yes, with the normal operating temperature at -4oF.  With regards to the
>> ultrasonic leak detectors, those that I have seen are limited to
operating
>> temperatures above freezing.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> [email protected]
>> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 1:11 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Finding leaks in a dry pipe system
>>
>> Is the freezer in service?
>>
>> LV
>>
>>
>> ---- tom poisal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >  Buckets of soapy water and soft bush with plenty of helpers to go over
>> > every fitting, joint and weld.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Matt Grise <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > There are leak detectors available that can detect the sound of air
>> leaking
>> > > from pipes. They can often do better than ears.
>> > >
>> > > Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP
>> > > Sales Engineer
>> > > Alliance Fire Protection
>> > > *Licensed in KS & MO
>> > >
>> > > 913.888.0647 ph
>> > > 913.888.0618 f
>> > > 913.927.0222 cell
>> > > www. AFPsprink.com
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:
>> > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Bitton
>> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
>> > > To: [email protected]
>> > > Subject: Finding leaks in a dry pipe system
>> > >
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I have a large cold storage freezer facility that is protected by
>> several
>> > > dry pipe systems.  The systems are currently shut off due to several
>> leaks.
>> > > A contractor used compressed air to pressurize the piping and find
>> leaks,
>> > > which he has repaired (mostly coming from the grooved connections).
>> > > However, there are additional leaks which has not been able to find.
>>  Is
>> > > anyone aware of other methods of finding the leaks (other than
>> compressed
>> > > air)?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > David Bitton, ing.
>> > >
>> > > Quest Loss Control Services Inc.
>> > >
>> > > Les services de prévention des sinistres Quest inc.
>> > >
>> > > 5100, rue de la Savane, bureau 200
>> > >
>> > > Montréal, QC H4P 1T8
>> > >
>> > > (514) 341-4545
>> > >
>> > > www.questlosscontrol.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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Ron Greenman
Instructor
Fire Protection Engineering
Bates Technical College
Tacoma, WA

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