Have used high air pressures to add the advantage of hearing the leak Also have used the AQUA VELVA in compressor hose. Works as well as Ahmani but cheaper. lol. Have had some sucess with both methods. Might try the high tech Helium leak detector practice by professional leak detection company but the air circulating , I assume complicates any method. Don't know of a reasonably priced liquid that freezes below -40; look for the drip. Maybe on a Periodic Chemical chart there is an Element that would not freeze? > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:36:46 -0700 > Subject: Re: Finding leaks in a dry pipe system > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > Cold smoke like soldiers use for signaling. Pop a unit in the DPV, > close it up, and then pressure it. > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:28 AM, David Bitton > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you everyone for your replies. We are still trying to find a way to > > locate the leaks without tripping the system and/or putting the freezer out > > of service. (The aroma therapy sure is tempting...) If that turns out not > > to be possible, we will explore the other methods. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Young > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:00 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Finding leaks in a dry pipe system > > > > Frank Herrick gave a good way to find dry system leaks back in March, > > actually. > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg19989.html > > > > > > Benjamin Young > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM, David Bitton > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Yes, with the normal operating temperature at -4oF. With regards to the > >> ultrasonic leak detectors, those that I have seen are limited to operating > >> temperatures above freezing. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto: > >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of > >> [email protected] > >> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 1:11 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Finding leaks in a dry pipe system > >> > >> Is the freezer in service? > >> > >> LV > >> > >> > >> ---- tom poisal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Buckets of soapy water and soft bush with plenty of helpers to go over > >> > every fitting, joint and weld. > >> > > >> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Matt Grise <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > There are leak detectors available that can detect the sound of air > >> leaking > >> > > from pipes. 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