Hello Todd, Tyco has a heat trace listed for branch lines they are proud of. I had to use some and about 95' of cable, 3 sets of ends and a controller was about $2.500.00 plus installation.
Friday, August 20, 2010, 11:37:58 AM, you wrote: > I don't think heat trace would be approved for > this use (at this point). I believe it is only for mains. > An enclosure may be the only alternative, not > knowing the dimension of the units involved. It > would just need to be an insulated box, since we > are enclosing a furnace and residual heat would probably keep the space warm. > Sounds like a good pilot project. > At 10:46 AM 8/20/2010, you wrote: >>You could use heat tracing. (...not a great idea, but it would work) >>Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP >>Sales Engineer >>Alliance Fire Protection >>*Licensed in KS & MO >>913.888.0647 ph >>913.888.0618 f >>913.927.0222 cell >>www. AFPsprink.com >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church >>Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:45 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: 13D attic Fuel-fired protection >>In those areas with cold weather and 13D in place, has anyone come up with a >>resolution for protecting a head above the fuel fired furnace in an >>unconditioned attic space short of walling it off so a wet pipe could be >>safe? >>We certainly want to minimize the impact at this critical time in our IRC >>mandate here in PA, so that we can provide the builders and homeowners with >>an affordable, smooth transition to a sprinklered Commonwealth. >>Losing AF is quite a blow, even if its temporary (I hope!) for areas where >>50-50 works. It'd take a really tall dry upright, past the listing >>limitation. >>From: George Church [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:39 AM >>To: 'Tim Knisely' >>Subject: RE: Sprinkler question... >>Without antifreeze, its seal it in and pop a wet head in it, or install a >>tiny dry system. I'm confident that the additional testing will soon allow >>premix 50-50 solutions and we'll be back to a small AF loop for a head in >>the attic atop the unit. >>I would argue passionately that sticking a furnace in an attic does NOT make >>the space conditioned sufficiently for a wet pipe to survive a winter around >>here. >>Tyco now has a CPVC dry system and residential dry pendents, but that's a >>huge expense for a single head. Even an AF loop with the RPZ and associated >>backflow and fluid maintenance chores introduces too much complexity for 13D >>IMHO. >>We should be thinking of these as Install and Forget- because that is what >>will happen. >>Will check around- I'm posting this to the AFSA Sprinkler Forum to see if >>anyone has additional thoughts. >>George Church' >>Rowe Sprinkler >>[email protected] >>570-837-7647 >>From: Tim Knisely [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 8:46 AM >>To: 'George L. Church Jr.' >>Subject: Sprinkler question... >>George, >>With sprinklers now required in unfinished attics where a fuel-fired >>appliance is located, what is the preferred method to keep this from >>freezing? I've heard some people say that the space is now heated and the >>head won't freeze. But, I'm not sure if some of the newer high-efficiency >>furnaces put off that much heat. One option is to frame in a room to >>capture the heat, but curious to see what some others might be. >>Thanks. >>Tim E. Knisely, Senior Fire Inspector >>Centre Region Code Administration >>2643 Gateway Drive, Suite #2 >>State College, PA 16801 >>(814) 231-3058 >>(814) 231-3088 Fax >>E-mail: [email protected] >>_______________________________________________ >>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >>To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>_______________________________________________ >>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >>To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > Todd G. 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