Not sure what your point is Thom.

The fire flow table is in the appendix of the Code, and at the top of the page 
it clearly states the appendix is not mandatory, so IFC Appendix B is not 
automatically adopted when the IFC is.  Different jurisdictions apply different 
methods for this issue.

IFC 508.3 States that "Fire flow requirements.... shall be determined by an 
approved method."  So who would approve that method?  ..........drum 
roll............... The AHJ.

The AHJ directs you to what method has been approved in his jurisdiction then 
you use that method to do the calcs.  It just so happens with this issue that 
there is no set standard.  See 508.3 above.  

You don't go by a number someone pulls out of a hat.  You use the recognized 
method to make the determination.

The other reason for getting the direction from the AHJ is that the fire flow 
values can vary greatly depending on what method is used for making the 
calculations.  

And I kept stating IBC when it should have been IFC, sorry for any confusion 
there.



Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SCĀ  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers

So why would we rely on a written and adopted code or standard! Oh that's
right, because when we end up in court we have a written adopted document to
support or position. That usually works out better than, "Well I polled the
AHJ, the insurance underwriter, the Arch, the building Dept. and the guy
from the dog pound, and they all thought 1000GPM would be Ok."

You can do anything you want if you're ready to accept the accompanying
liability. If not---

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Dual Purpose Fire Pump - Hydrants and Sprinklers

Don't make that assumption.   Fire flow is one thing that has no universal
rules and has no regard for the applicable building code.


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