What environment are the heads in? what is the space used for? Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP Sales Engineer Alliance Fire Protection *Licensed in KS & MO
913.888.0647 ph 913.888.0618 f 913.927.0222 cell www. AFPsprink.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Forest Wilson Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: oily substance on sprinkler deflectors Question: I surveyed a sprinkler system today, installed 2001. Wet System; Steel Pipe; SSP heads About half the deflectors have a oily substance on them. The occupant wiped the deflectors clean 2 years ago, but they are oily again. I assume this is pipe joint compound or cutting oil leaking through the fittings. Am I correct in this assumption? What causes this? Forest Wilson Cherokee Fire On 9/10/2010 3:42 PM, Ed Kramer wrote: > I've heard that the intent of 903.3.1.2.1 is to protect the structure from > fires that start on the patio/deck/balcony, and in particular from fires > that are started by cooking equipment (BBQ/grills). Assuming that's the > case, your balcony shouldn't be required to be protected. I'll be up to you > to get the AHJ's blessing to delete the sprinkler protection, but I think > you'd have a very good argument. > > Ed Kramer > Littleton, CO > >> I have a question about an R2 occupancy I'm working on. This relates to >> 903.3.1.2.1 in the 2009 IBC. This living facility has what I would >> consider >> fake patios on some of the rooms. They are shallow, only about 3' wide, >> and >> they are not normally useable. What I mean by that is there are >> railings at >> the outside edge with no openings, and there are no doors accessing them >> from the dwelling unit. So to get onto this thing, you would have to >> hop >> the railing or crawl through a normal size window. I couldn't find a >> definition in the IBC for whether a patio/deck /balcony is only >> considered >> that if its accessible or not. >> >> This building is definitely type V construction, so this would apply, >> but >> does the IBC make any differentiation in terms of the balcony being >> accessible, or just being an architectural feature. Has anyone >> encountered >> this before? >> >> The other slight issue is that technically the code being enforced still >> references the 2006 IBC, but I only have a 2009 copy. I can't hope that >> this was new, can I? >> >> I actually have a rendered image of what I'm talking about if that >> helps. >> http://www.bseg-ce.com/port_hopewell.html >> Look at the two first floor cut-ins on either side of the person in that >> rendering to see what I'm talking about. >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Benjamin Young, CET >> Sobieski Fire Protection > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
