You may wish to use this name for what you consider a "Fake" balcony" Faux makes the AHJ feel all warm and fuzzy. http://www.hooksandlattice.com/faux-balcony.html
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Kramer Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: sprinklers on fake patios & balconies I've heard that the intent of 903.3.1.2.1 is to protect the structure from fires that start on the patio/deck/balcony, and in particular from fires that are started by cooking equipment (BBQ/grills). Assuming that's the case, your balcony shouldn't be required to be protected. I'll be up to you to get the AHJ's blessing to delete the sprinkler protection, but I think you'd have a very good argument. Ed Kramer Littleton, CO > > I have a question about an R2 occupancy I'm working on. This relates to > 903.3.1.2.1 in the 2009 IBC. This living facility has what I would > consider > fake patios on some of the rooms. They are shallow, only about 3' wide, > and > they are not normally useable. What I mean by that is there are > railings at > the outside edge with no openings, and there are no doors accessing them > from the dwelling unit. So to get onto this thing, you would have to > hop > the railing or crawl through a normal size window. I couldn't find a > definition in the IBC for whether a patio/deck /balcony is only > considered > that if its accessible or not. > > This building is definitely type V construction, so this would apply, > but > does the IBC make any differentiation in terms of the balcony being > accessible, or just being an architectural feature. Has anyone > encountered > this before? > > The other slight issue is that technically the code being enforced still > references the 2006 IBC, but I only have a 2009 copy. I can't hope that > this was new, can I? > > I actually have a rendered image of what I'm talking about if that > helps. > http://www.bseg-ce.com/port_hopewell.html > Look at the two first floor cut-ins on either side of the person in that > rendering to see what I'm talking about. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Benjamin Young, CET > Sobieski Fire Protection _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
