And unnecessarily cost your employer (or yourself) the additional labor hours 
and materials vs. Todd's existing tap solution which is perfectly acceptable.  

Todd, don't forget potential drain issue with the bottom of the 2.5" lower than 
the bottom of the 2". 

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Subject: Re: reduce then increase pipe sizes

From a. Fitters asspect. I would just cut the 3" main , roll groove it in place 
and install a 3" grooved tee then reduce the bull outlet
 Tom berry
Precision fire protection
Service/inspections
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-----Original message-----
From: John Denhardt <[email protected]>
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Sent: Thu, Nov 11, 2010 13:59:36 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: reduce then increase pipe sizes

It is allowed.  You are not missing anything.  Ask the AHJ for a reference.

John
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-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Williams <[email protected]>
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:50:35 
To: <[email protected]>
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Subject: reduce then increase pipe sizes

I am working on an existing system where we have to tie in a new 
2-1/2" main into an existing 3". Since they do not make a 3x2-1/2 
mechanical tee, that option is out. My proposal is to utilize an 
existing plugged 2" outlet, install a 2 x 0-6 TxG nipple and then 
increase to 2-1/2". It works hydraulically with 18+ psi left over 
(reducing the 2-1/2" main not an option hydraulically).

I don't see anything in the Code that states that it is not allowed. 
However, the AHJ says it isn't. Before I argue the point, am I 
missing something?

Todd G. Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
860.535.2080
www.fpdc.com

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