> From: [email protected] > > This is pretty funny, considering Cecil was just past diapers when Thom > started with wrenches. As a way to show my respect for someone that is so richly experienced, I want to say thanks to Thom for adding to the experience here at the Academy. He recently sent quite a collection of books for our library, which is starting to look very impressive. We have had a student spending their freetime cataloging and sorting all of the info that he sent us a few months ago. One of the items that I'll cherish is an original hand written letter from a PE that asks the State of Colorado to give Thom his contractors license. (I am sure he didn't know this was tucked in the flap of one the books.) He began his company the year i started in the business back in Virginia. (yes, George, I was in diapers when he got started...) Thom has helped us really start to build what I hope will one day be the best library available to the fire sprinkler indsutry. if you have any books (ANY AT ALL) that are related to the industry, please send them along. Old catalogs and such are welcome! We also have quite a stack of old NFPA (NBFU) pamphlets and they include a replica of the 1896 NFPA 13 (thanks to Chris Dubay) and an original 1917 NFPA 14. We have a 1905 pump text book with the original NFPA 20 in it. It looks as though we are gonna have a party in the Spring when our first students graduate and we will certainly be inviting the industry out for that!
So..... thanks Thom! See ya, Cecil Bilbo Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology Champaign, IL 217.607.0325 www.sprinkleracademy.com [email protected] OUR STUDENTS SAVE LIVES!! > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:12:25 -0500 > Subject: RE: Air Releases in 2013 > > This is pretty funny, considering Cecil was just past diapers when Thom > started with wenches. Wrenches were just a few years after...(apologies to > Noreeen) > > DATA and statistics is what we need and have embarrassingly little of. We > can't tell how many sprinkler contractors are in the business (10,000?), we > approximate how many heads go in a year, and you think we can point to > collated data indicating x # of examples of MIC occur (to the point of > showing themselves) in Sch 40 vrs Sch 10 (because if it doesn't show, we > don't look!). What % of systems have test blanks floating in the water, and > even then we likely don't have solid data on a lot of the environment they > are exposed to- just Got or No Got problem. More accurately, Got or No Got, > or Don't Know if we got- since if it isn't leaking, they don't call. > > Now maybe we could import data from Down Under since they have kept far > better (any would be far better) statistics than we do on a lot of items, and > I'd say we go 10,000 miles away and transport their data back here and we'd > be more accurate than trying to create what we'll never have- actual data on > sprinkler systems. And, I've never been there and need an excuse to go see > Chris Mak and sample the reds they keep for themselves. But they don't flow > ITC at far end, so already varying trade practice enters and discounts > accuracy. > > Maybe we get the Tops and others with mucho experience and little bone to > pick, and let em brainstorm the reasons, and then FPRF could perform tests to > confirm or deny to the extent reasonably possible? That'd be as accurate as > we could hope for, given that there is so little centralized, complete data > on systems- heck we can't tell if may of the buildings catch fire are > sprinklered. > > glc > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sprinkler > Academy - C Bilbo > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:57 PM > To: FORUM > Subject: RE: Air Releases in 2013 > > > Well Thom, > > I'll give you an A for effort but only a C- for factual declaration. > > You get the sparging concept. No question. Replace Oxygen through iterations > of introducing Nitrogen. However, the final goals for lack of oxygen are NOT > to starve microbes (although, this is a great by-product), because microbes > are NOT the biggest problem in corrosion of sprinkler system piping (you > didn't do your reading!! see FPSCMI white paper #6!!) > > Simple oxidation is the number one culprit of corrosion in sprinkler > systems!! That's right. RUST (or similar). Flipping pesky electrons and > breaking down the metal is what oxygen does best.... now throw in some amines > of many different flavors and you've got yerself an environment that can > "make it happen"! > > So your ultimate grade for this assignment is: > > B > > Well done! Now get out there and protect those cheerleaders!! > > > Sincerely, > > > Cecil Bilbo > Sprinkler Teacher Dude > Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology > Parkland College (Go Cobras!! National Champs or Nationally ranked for > Basketball, Baseball and Softball!! I think.....can't keep track....) > Champaign, IL > 217.607.0325 > www.sprinkleracademy.com > [email protected] > > OUR STUDENTS SAVE LIVES!! > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Air Releases in 2013 > > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:16:10 -0700 > > > > You must mean the part about facilitating the separation of the Oxygen from > > the water, and displacement of it with Nitrogen, there by eliminating or > > reducing the Ox available for Microbal growth. > > > > Short answer "Starve the Oxygen dependent Microbes" "Protect the steel" > > or > > Save the cheer leader, save the world! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sprinkler > > Academy - C Bilbo > > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 12:35 PM > > To: FORUM > > Subject: RE: Air Releases in 2013 > > > > > > Good Thom, now before I can give you credit for your assignment.... > > > > You'll need to provide me with more than the definition. (And while > > students can feel free to use 'wikipedia', they must show they understand > > what wikipedia is telling us) > > > > So, > > > > How can we use this is in our everyday lives as "sprinkler folks"? > > > > I look forward to grading to your final submission, > > > > Mr. Bilbo > > Sprinkler Teacher Dude > > > > > > > > Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology > > Champaign, IL > > 217.607.0325 > > www.sprinkleracademy.com > > [email protected] > > > > OUR STUDENTS SAVE LIVES!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: RE: Air Releases in 2013 > > > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:20:14 -0700 > > > > > > > > > Sparging (chemistry)From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: > > > navigation, search > > > In chemistry, sparging, also known as gas flushing in metallurgy, is a > > > technique which involves bubbling a chemically inert gas, such as > > nitrogen, > > > argon, or helium, through a liquid. This can be used to remove dissolved > > > gases (e.g. oxygen) from the liquid. > > > > > > Solvents used in high performance liquid chromatography (HPLC) are often > > > sparged with helium gas.[1] > > > > > > In chemical engineering, sparging can also be a method to remove > > low-boiling > > > liquids from a solution. The low-boiling components tend to evaporate more > > > rapidly, hence they may be removed from the bulk solution containing > > > higher-boiling components. It is an alternative to distillation, and it > > does > > > not require heat. > > > > > > This technique is also used in environmental chemistry to extract the oil > > > contaminants from subsoil water and the ground. > > > > > > In metallurgy, this process is used to remove dissolved gases from the > > melt > > > prior to the material being processed.[2] For example, before casting > > > aluminium alloys, argon gas bubbles can be injected in liquid aluminium > > > using a rotary degaser. The resulting argon bubbles will go up to the > > > surface bringing with it a quantity of dissolved hydrogen gas. This > > degasing > > > treatment reduces the occurrence of hydrogen gas porosity. > > > > > > [edit] References1.^ M. W. Dong (2000). "Precision in HPLC. Mastering the > > > art of HPLC". Today's Chemist at Work (American Chemical Society) 9 (8): > > > 28-32. ISSN 1062-094X. > > > 2.^ Degarmo, E. Paul; Black, J T.; Kohser, Ronald A. (2003). Materials and > > > Processes in Manufacturing (9th ed.). Wiley. p. 284. ISBN 0-471- > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sprinkler > > > Academy - C Bilbo > > > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:55 AM > > > To: FORUM > > > Subject: RE: Air Releases in 2013 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll give a free admission to one Academy webinar to the first > > > "non-committee member" that can tell me what "sparged" means in relation > > to > > > this newer product. (hey Brad, think molecular brides) :-) > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > Cecil Bilbo > > > Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology > > > Parkland College > > > Champaign, IL > > > 217.607.0325 > > > www.sprinkleracademy.com > > > [email protected] > > > > > > OUR STUDENTS SAVE LIVES!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > > > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
