Koo koo ka choo? -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Whitfield [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 1:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Decommissioning a system
George, You are showing your age on this one! I doubt many of these guys will have a clue what your reply means! Cliff -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 1:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Decommissioning a system I B u r i e d P a u l ? George Church Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Young Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 1:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Decommissioning a system Yeah, just read it backwards. Benjamin Young On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > NFPA -3? > > > > At 11:32 AM 3/7/2011, you wrote: > >> We would use IBC 3303, as our basic guide to de-commission >> (Demolition) of any system which requires the AHJ to provide (3303.6) >> "---In accordance with the approved rules and requirements of the >> authority having jurisdiction." >> >> I would caution you that leaving sprinkler heads in place that no >> longer operate, in an "Occupied" building gives the false sense of >> protection, similar to just gluing heads to a ceiling without and pipe supplying them. >> I >> don't know how "Litigious" the Irish court system is in regard to >> "Public safety" but Old English law can't be much different than >> here, except that you have far fewer lawyers. >> >> I'd remove anything that say's or looks like a fire protection >> system, including heads, riser, FDC, signs and pipe if possible, but >> the AHJ should supply you with written guidelines for your files. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Damien >> Shannon >> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:39 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Decommissioning a system >> >> Dear Forum, >> >> I was wondering if there is a Standard or Datasheet that people are >> aware of for decommissioning a system. >> We are requested to decommission a few buildings here. Some are >> remaining open, some are closing. Some will be heated but some are not. >> One of my big concerns is that in some cases there are >> drywall/plaster ceilings, with drops to the heads. Therefore there >> will be water in the drops. Since the system would be left such that >> it would not be a sealed system, thereby allowing room for expansion >> during freeze periods, would there still be cause for concern of breakage/leakage? >> Some of the areas would be very difficult to remove every sprinkler >> (with severe floor obstructions.), and there may be areas with >> certain amount of misc trapped water. >> Has anyone got experience in this regards, or is there a Standard to >> be followed. >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> BTW, I recently closed QED Sprinkler Designs to take a position back >> in the 'Homeland' with my Father's Company. (Believe we just became >> the first Irish AFSA memberJ). I had mentioned this move to a few of >> you before but there have been a few postponed starts which has led >> me to be in limbo for a while there. >> Thank you all for your help and encouragement while I was State side >> (it was a very special 16 years for me), and hope to keep in touch. >> >> Damien Shannon >> Provincial Sprinkler Company Ltd. >> Unit 4, Cork Airport Industrial Estate Kinsale Road, Cork, Ireland. >> Tel: (021) 4965058 >> Fax: (021) 4317425 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email >> to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email >> to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > > Todd G. 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