Cliff, There's more of us OFs on the Forum than you realize. (and did he really just forget his shoes?)
But that is the wealth of experience that is found here (sprinkler). T At 02:41 PM 3/7/2011, you wrote: >George, > >You are showing your age on this one! I doubt many of these guys will have >a clue what your reply means! > >Cliff > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church >Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 1:16 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Decommissioning a system > >I B u r i e d P a u l ? > >George Church >Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. >PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 >877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax >[email protected] > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Young >Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 1:12 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Decommissioning a system > >Yeah, just read it backwards. > >Benjamin Young > > > >On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > >> NFPA -3? >> >> >> >> At 11:32 AM 3/7/2011, you wrote: >> >>> We would use IBC 3303, as our basic guide to de-commission >>> (Demolition) of any system which requires the AHJ to provide (3303.6) >>> "---In accordance with the approved rules and requirements of the >>> authority having jurisdiction." >>> >>> I would caution you that leaving sprinkler heads in place that no >>> longer operate, in an "Occupied" building gives the false sense of >>> protection, similar to just gluing heads to a ceiling without and pipe >supplying them. >>> I >>> don't know how "Litigious" the Irish court system is in regard to >>> "Public safety" but Old English law can't be much different than >>> here, except that you have far fewer lawyers. >>> >>> I'd remove anything that say's or looks like a fire protection >>> system, including heads, riser, FDC, signs and pipe if possible, but >>> the AHJ should supply you with written guidelines for your files. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Damien >>> Shannon >>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:39 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Decommissioning a system >>> >>> Dear Forum, >>> >>> I was wondering if there is a Standard or Datasheet that people are >>> aware of for decommissioning a system. >>> We are requested to decommission a few buildings here. Some are >>> remaining open, some are closing. Some will be heated but some are not. >>> One of my big concerns is that in some cases there are >>> drywall/plaster ceilings, with drops to the heads. Therefore there >>> will be water in the drops. Since the system would be left such that >>> it would not be a sealed system, thereby allowing room for expansion >>> during freeze periods, would there still be cause for concern of >breakage/leakage? >>> Some of the areas would be very difficult to remove every sprinkler >>> (with severe floor obstructions.), and there may be areas with >>> certain amount of misc trapped water. >>> Has anyone got experience in this regards, or is there a Standard to >>> be followed. >>> Any help would be appreciated. >>> >>> BTW, I recently closed QED Sprinkler Designs to take a position back >>> in the 'Homeland' with my Father's Company. (Believe we just became >>> the first Irish AFSA memberJ). I had mentioned this move to a few of >>> you before but there have been a few postponed starts which has led >>> me to be in limbo for a while there. >>> Thank you all for your help and encouragement while I was State side >>> (it was a very special 16 years for me), and hope to keep in touch. >>> >>> Damien Shannon >>> Provincial Sprinkler Company Ltd. >>> Unit 4, Cork Airport Industrial Estate Kinsale Road, Cork, Ireland. >>> Tel: (021) 4965058 >>> Fax: (021) 4317425 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>> >>> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe, send an email >>> to:[email protected] >>> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>> >>> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe, send an email >>> to:[email protected] >>> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>> >> >> Todd G. Williams, PE >> Fire Protection Design/Consulting >> Stonington, CT >> 860.535.2080 >> www.fpdc.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email >> to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. 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