Thanks Jim.
The test assembly as mentioned does it come with the flow meter and pitot tube? 
Is there any web sites I can look at?
Thanks for all the information.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: PRV Testing

We have worked with owners of high rise building equipped with PRV's to upsize 
the drain risers to 4 inch and equipped with a 2½ swivel male inlet with valve 
to allow flow testing of PRV in place. The contractor usually uses a 2 1/2" 
flow meter, that has been flow tested and flow verified with a pitot tube and 
gauge, before testing in the high rise building, and places a pressure gauge on 
the inlet side of the PRV.  The installing contractor should have installed a ¼ 
inch tap with ¼ inch valve and plug on the PRV's inlet piping. Connect the test 
assembly to the PRV and to the drain riser and then flow test the PRV taking 
pressure reading from the supply side of the PRV and from the pressure gauge on 
the flow meter for the discharge side of the PRV.  Just make sure that the 4 
inch drain riser has some offsets in the vertical drop so the slug of water 
from the testing does not have a 600 ft straight drop to the first Ell. This 
test set up permits a contractor to adequately flow test the PRV's in a 
efficient manner with little of no damage to the contents of the building.  

Have a fire safe day.

Jim Davidson 
 
Davidson Associates 
Fire Protection * Medical Gas * Code Consulting  
302-994-9500   Fax:302-234-1781


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ford, Charles
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: PRV Testing

My original post was related to the pressure settings on existing PRV's. Don't 
need a pitot. Your question seems to acceptance testing of the stand pipes. 
Setting or verifying the PRV settings is part of the testing but it seems to me 
that full flow teating at the top is also required, but frankly I don't know 
exactly how that is done.   

C. Burton Ford
Nicet Certified
Special Hazards IV
Fire alarm IV
Sprinkler III
Water Based Inspections I
NFPA Certified Fire Protection Specialist [CFPS]
Cintas Fire Protection
1038 Conshohocken Road
Conshohocken ,PA 19428
610-233-1400
Fax 610-233-1401
________________________________________
From: [email protected] 
[[email protected]] On Behalf Of Macris, George 
[[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: PRV Testing

This is a new sprinkler installation and having on site problems with testing 
of the PRVs for each floor in the building. The design engineer is not helpful 
and the installers have no clue of how to test them. Will you be able to 
describe how the actual test in done? I thought you also need to use a pitot 
tube, but how can this be done if you use a short piece of testing hose with 
one side connected to the drain riser and the other side just after the PRV.

Thanks,


George Macris,Plans Examiner/Fire Prevention Officer
Markham Fire & Emergency Services
101 Town Centre Boulevard
Markham, Ontario L3R 9W3
[email protected]  www.markham.ca




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Tysinger
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 3:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE:

I have used a single 2½" female hose x male thread adapter, about a foot off 
the floor. Then you use a short piece of 2½" fire hose for testing.


Thanks,
Eric Tysinger CET
NICET III - 108988
Designer
Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc.
4370 Motorsport Drive
Concord, NC 28027
p: (704)782-3032 x1751
f: (704)795-6838
C: (239)633-9703

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 3:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject:

Tom,

Do you have a picture or a sketch of a drain riser and connections for a 2-1/2" 
pressure reducing hose valve? I'm having a hard time picturing how this all 
goes together. Also any hints on distance or arrangement would be helpful. 
Thanks

Todd

Todd G. Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
860.535.2080
www.fpdc.com

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