Some horizontal fire shutters have man doors built in.

Jack Fairchild

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Grise
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:23 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Automatic WON fire doors at egress stairwells that have standpipe 
systems?

I have seen setups like that where a secondary door is provided so that the 
fire department can run a hose out of the stairwell without messing with the 
won door.

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP 
Sales Engineer 
Alliance Fire Protection 
130 w 9th Ave.
North Kansas City, MO 64116

*Licensed in KS & MO 

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
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[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Automatic WON fire doors at egress stairwells that have standpipe 
systems?

It might be helpful to check with the fire dept for their input.

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----- Reply message -----
From: "Allan Seidel" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Automatic WON fire doors at egress stairwells that have standpipe 
systems?
Date: Fri, Oct 14, 2011 8:22 pm


Knowing this is a bit out of topic I still would like to ask the question.
Has anyone dealt with automatic WON fire doors at egress stairwells where
the fire department would expect to come out of the stairwell with hoses
attached to the standpipe system in the stairwell? If so would you provide
some particulars regarding the setup?  Basically think of a typical
stairwell without any wall at the floor landing but where there is an
automatic horizontal fire door that would be trying to close on whatever
hose comes out of the stairwell. Furthermore the Won door height would be
almost to the ceiling since someone is trying for an open look. (I guess
they want to see the beautiful standpipe system there is not room enough to
conceal.) With the tall door there would not be much of a smoke stop if that
is what happens at a normal stairwell. My initial take is that this is a bad
idea, but perhaps there is an established way to do this.

Thank you,
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
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