I have a 1908 sprinkler with a rotating deflector.  Can't read its name,
but looks like MASCO Model C.

The old IRI collection pamphlet shows also a 1888 Gleason which has one.
Ed Vining
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On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote:

> I won't go into my idea of a spinning deflector to improve water
> distribution (this may have already been done; i'm not sure)
>
>
> At 10:18 AM 4/25/2012, you wrote:
> >Thanks Todd.
> >
> >I was really thinking along these lines. When calc'ing coverage, density
> >and such...we measure linearly right?. And thus, we measure squares of
> >coverage. However, the sprinkler generally throws in a circular pattern.
> >What percentage of a circle lies outside the box once it is drawn inside
> of
> >a circle? I flunked out of Bus. Calc... Might point being, we are proving
> >and being rejected for a few pounds here;gpms there; by what is proven in
> >the box. Not many bucket tests going on. Do we conservatively give away
> >this advantage because squares are easier to deal with mathematically?
> >Also, aren't most sprinklers conservatively rated. I have seen a standard
> >head throw well beyond 7'6" or 9'-0" for that matter. Oh, and this just
> in,
> >{they never stop these days...} As the water stream hits the deflector and
> >is deflected outwards, wouldn't a circular shadow be formed directly under
> >each head?  This would also subtract another percentile from what is
> >actually "in the box" I guess that would be a negative though.
> >
> >This is all rhetorical and is just an exercise in learning and creative
> >thinking.
> > Teach your kids to read. Teach your kids to question everything they
> read.
> >Teach them to question everything...   George Carlin.
> >
> >On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Bruce Verhei <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I've read in the past that this fell in the not well understood effect
> >> category when engineers have desired to model how sprinklers actually
> work.
> >> This seems to be difficult.  They say something that ends with but
> >> sprinklers installed and maintained to standards have a remarkable
> record
> >> of controlling fires in buildings.
> >>
> >> I want to buy one of the square heads.  Are the threads square too?
> >>
> >> Bruce
> >>
> >> Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™ 4G on AT&T
> >>
> >> -----Original message-----
> >> From: Thomas Watt <[email protected]>
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 13:05:01 GMT+00:00
> >> Subject: Rounding off {Squaring off?}
> >>
> >> I had a brain-fart and came up with this question for the forum.
> Especially
> >> the engineers.  Since sprinklers, in general, throw in a circular
> pattern,
> >> and we calc the sprinklers as squares, there is always overlap so we
> are by
> >> default miscalculating a percentage of the density. Has anyone ever
> >> calculated the safety factor effect by ignoring the arcs outside the
> >> square???
> >>
> >> Thomas
> >> A+ fitter/Foreman
> >> No work in Orlando, FL area
> >> Willing to relocate
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