Couldn't treat em as 13d irc townhouses?

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On May 29, 2013, at 11:06 AM, "Todd - Work" <t...@fpdc.com> wrote:

> This is an older single story 3 family side-by-side structure. The 13R system 
> is being retrofitted. I believe (am confirming) that they have local hard 
> wired smoke detectors only. Located in MA.
> 
> Todd G Williams, PE
> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> Stonington, CT
> www.fpdc.com
> 
> On May 29, 2013, at 9:19 AM, "Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C]" 
> <johnson...@mail.nih.gov> wrote:
> 
>> NFPA 101:30.3.4.2.3    In buildings protected throughout by an approved, 
>> supervised automatic sprinkler system in accordance with 30.3.5, required 
>> fire alarm systems shall be initiated upon operation of the automatic 
>> sprinkler system.
>> 
>> Someone will need to go through Section 30.3.4.3 for notification 
>> requirements as they very based on the number of dwelling units, building 
>> height, etc.
>> 
>> Ask for the code reference for the deficiency that is being noted. 
>> 
>> Here is the audibility requirement for sleeping areas:
>> 
>> NFPA 72: 18.4.5 Sleeping Area Requirements.   
>> 18.4.5.1    Where audible appliances are installed to provide signals for 
>> sleeping areas, they shall have a sound level of at least 15 dB above the 
>> average ambient sound level or 5 dB above the maximum sound level having a 
>> duration of at least 60 seconds or a sound level of at least 75 dBA, 
>> whichever is greater, measured at the pillow level in the area required to 
>> be served by the system using the A-weighted scale (dBA).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Duane Johnson, PE
>> Program Manager
>> Division of the Fire Marshal (Contractor)
>> Office of Research Services 
>> National Institutes of Health 
>> 301-496-0487
>> 
>> "Protecting Science - One Sprinkler at a Time"
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg McGahan [mailto:g...@livingwaterfp.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 8:31 AM
>> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
>> Subject: Re: 13R local alarm
>> 
>> mount it in the closet
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Todd - Work <t...@fpdc.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I was thinking that a 6" bell inside an apartment might be a little 
>>> overkill as well as obtrusive.
>>> 
>>> Todd G Williams, PE
>>> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
>>> Stonington, CT
>>> www.fpdc.com
>>> 
>>> On May 29, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Greg McGahan <g...@livingwaterfp.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am not sure what you are referring to exactly, but we often use a 
>>>> flow switch wored to a 6" electric bell.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Todd - Work <t...@fpdc.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have an FM that wants local alarms for a 13R system within each 
>>>>> unit
>>> (3
>>>>> family house). Any suggestions on a small wall mounted unit?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Todd G Williams, PE
>>>>> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
>>>>> Stonington, CT
>>>>> www.fpdc.com
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