Horn strobe? Sent from my iPhone
On May 29, 2013, at 5:14 PM, "Todd - Work" <t...@fpdc.com> wrote: > My contract does not include alarms, only the sprinklers. It will be up to > the owner and the FM to work that detail out. I have been asked to show a > strobe outside and a local interior alarm on the drawing. My original post > was asking for a specific product in a small, reasonably unobtrusive alarm to > install in a hallway. > > Todd G Williams, PE > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > Stonington, CT > www.fpdc.com > > On May 29, 2013, at 5:08 PM, "John Drucker - Home" <john.druc...@verizon.net> > wrote: > >> Todd, How old are the smoke alarms ?, at 10 yrs. their due for replacement >> anyway. >> >> As I commented earlier, a prescriptive way to solve the issue. >> >> John Drucker, CET >> Fire Protection Subcode Official >> Fire / Building / Electrical Inspector >> New Jersey >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org >> [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd - >> Work >> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 4:25 PM >> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >> Subject: Re: 13R local alarm >> >> The FM asked for the sprinkler alarms to be connected to ring the smoke >> detectors. I asked if a separate bell would be acceptable. The present >> system is essentially residential hard wired smokes. I'm not sure if all of >> the devices in each unit go off when one activates. There is no >> annunciation. I don't think the detectors are wired to accept additional >> input, so the entire system would have to be replaced if we have to >> interconnect. Right now they are not being asked to upgrade the alarms and >> this is not a town with a wimpy fire marshal. >> >> The alarm system is beyond my contract and the drawing notes state so. That >> is a can of worms I will let someone else open. >> >> Todd G Williams, PE >> Fire Protection Design/Consulting >> Stonington, CT >> www.fpdc.com >> >> On May 29, 2013, at 3:07 PM, "Tom Duross" <tduro...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> We had a local town home rule go into effect 15+ years ago requiring >>> sprinklers in anything 3+ units "substantially" renovated but it >>> forgot to mention annunciation (also forgot water supply). Many slick >>> property owners got together and sued and after the dust settled, it >>> was decided to put an electric bell in the stair lobby or main lobby >>> of each unit plus the outside. No formal fire alarm was required. >>> I've done the accessory relay to wire a dry contact to a 3 wire 120 >>> vac smoke circuit but it voids the listing of the smokes, or did (been >>> many years). >>> These days Todd, I don't know how you could install a sprinkler system >>> under current MA code and not have to install a formal 72 FA. 3 units >>> or more requires supervision and central station in MA. >>> TD >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org >>> [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of >>> Mike Henke >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:43 AM >>> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org; >>> sprinklerfo...@firesprinkler.org >>> Subject: RE: 13R local alarm >>> >>> It may be possible to activate both the smoke alarms and a separate >>> waterflow alarm. >>> The flowswitch should have 2 sets of contacts. >>> One switch can activate a local alarm such as the 120 vac mini horn >>> The other switch may be able to activate the smoke alarms. >>> >>> This would provide the additional signal for waterflow so it wouldn't >>> be confused with burnt toast. >>> >>> You probably have to contact the detector manufacturer to see how and >>> if the detectors can be activated from a separate switch. They may >>> have a separate module for this. >>> There are some products on the market for this such as Firex but I >>> don't know if they universally work with all makes and models of smoke >> alarms. >>> There was also a carrier frequency device made by Cepco products for this. >>> >>> Regards, >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
