Maybe, maybe not.  At 208' with an infinite area perhaps.  I'm thinking this is 
a relatively small footprint.  At some point the plume hits the walls and the 
heat loss dynamics change.  So we'd expect sooner sprinkler operation than in 
an unconfined space  and thus a smaller fire than expected at that point.  As a 
result I wouldn't automatically dismiss the benefit of sprinklers.  

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aaron Peck
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 3:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Amusement Park Rides

Well I should correct myself, with a 208' shaft probably not. The distance is 
too great and any fire at the lowest point would not benefit from a fire 
sprinkler activation. Due to the heat plum (sp?).

But again try to find their particular code if available.

Aaron M. Peck
+1 (202) 407-9079
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On Jun 15, 2013, at 3:23, Aaron Peck <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was just typing the same thing. Many of these companies, if its one of the 
> big ones, will have their own fire code i.e. Disney's "EPCOT Fire Code".
> 
> But short answers:
> 
> A) Yes
> 
> B) Only at the top level where the vehicle exists. The stairs probably aren't 
> designed for fire fighting except at the main landing. Where if needed they 
> can ascend from an exterior point for a fire inside the shaft. 
> 
> Aaron M. Peck
> +1 (202) 407-9079
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 15, 2013, at 3:18, Richard Lindner <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I've been down a similar "ride" in the past.  Find out the insurance 
>> company in advance since they will drive the protection requirements 
>> on this type of project.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Steve Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a client who is building a new roller coaster ride that will 
>>> transport 12 people 208' vertical in an enclosed open shaft.  
>>> Building is 30' X 40' steel construction both frame work and skin.  
>>> Within the shaft is stairs that people will be able to use is case of 
>>> emergency.
>>> The building will not be heated, so a wet system will not work.
>>> 
>>> a)      Are sprinklers required at the roof of this shaft?
>>> 
>>> b)      Will a standpipe be required?
>>> 
>>> c)       We plan on installing a system at about the 20'-0 AFG to
>>> protect the people at this level.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Steve Johnson
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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