I really appreciate the responses. I was looking for confirmation that my
thinking was correct. I lost a couple of bid jobs recently, one which was a
modification to an existing antifreeze system, essentially tripling the
size of the system, and the other was a wet and dry system.

I expected to lose the job that modified the antifreeze system. I talked
with the engineer prior to the bid but was told to bid what was shown and
it would be modified after the bid.

The combination system I knew I had a good price and was surprised when it
was given to another local company (same company that is doing the other
project). Well, I was curious so I visited the job site yesterday and was
very surprised to see the antifreeze loop ( this is Northern Michigan,
Marquette area) instead of the dry system.  This shed some light on the
bid. I just wanted to make sure that my thought process was correct and
that I really shouldn't be installing antifreeze systems, at least not with
what freeze point solutions are currently available.

-- 
Craig Leadbetter
Safeguard of Marquette
PO Box 116
Marquette, MI 49855

(O) 906-475-9955
(F) 906-475-5474
(C) 906-362-5393

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On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Rod DiBona <[email protected]> wrote:

> Craig,
>
> www.nfpa.org/antifreeze  has the information you are looking for. Pre mix
> is the only solution that is allowed in new installs. 48% glycerin and 38%
> glycol.  I don't know where Forest is putting in his antifreeze systems,
> hopefully somewhere warm but these numbers are not going to do the job
> where we are. Not to mention the liability thing which is a whole different
> topic like Cecil said. So essentially not a viable option for new installs
> in cold country. Run if they are telling you to do it.
>
> Rod at Rapid
>
> ________________________________________
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> Leadbetter [[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 1:27 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Antifreeze
>
> Are antifreeze systems allowed to be installed.
>
> I was understood that no one was making an approved antifreeze. Am I wrong?
>
>
> Craig Leadbetter
>
> Safeguard of Marquette
>
>
>
>
>
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