Don't see any advantage other than your able to disable an audible alarm or 
strobe while its running which they say is why people don't exercise their Fire 
Pumps, which is not the reason why, which is too many to list. I would agree 
with you on NFPA 25, §8.3.1 also 8.3.2.8 would not be complied with because 
observations not on their controller panel would not be observed as required. I 
have never been a fan of remote start and you should always inspect your pump 
before you run it, during and after.   


TODD LETTERMAN | SENIOR FIRE PROTECTION CONSULTANT


HUGHES ASSOCIATES | FIRE PROTECTION & CODE CONSULTING
2535 CAMINO DEL RIO SOUTH | SUITE 320 | SAN DIEGO | CALIFORNIA | 92108
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve 
Leyton
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 12:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Remote fire pump start

I was asked about this product and fail to see any real value for it.  But I 
thought I'd throw this out and start discussion:  
http://www.262apex.com/md-xxii.html

 

It's a remote start controller and they pitch it as satisfying NFPA 25, §8.3.1. 
  8.3.2.6 specifically says, "An automatic timer shall be permitted to be 
substituted for the starting procedure."   This all seems to be adding up to 
something of value, but I have the following questions about the product and 
industry practices:

 

1)      The product data boasts that it's UL 508 listed, but that's for general 
controls and it's certainly NOT a listed fire pump controller.  Anyone agree 
with me that this could void the listing of an installed or proposed pump 
assembly?

2)      A completely remote start is not in accordance with NFPA 25 §8.3.2.7 
which requires that there be qualified personnel in attendance whenever the 
pump is in operation.

3)      Anyone agree with me that if you take 8.3.2.7 literally, there's no 
real application for a product like this?

4)      If there is an application, can someone explain how to apply this type 
of a control and what the value is to owner and/or service contractor?

 

Thanks,

 

Steve Leyton

PROTECTION DESIGN & CONSULTING

2851 Camino del Rio South, Suite 400

San Diego, CA 92108

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