Steve, This may have more bells and whistles, but some of the newer control panels have this option already. Maybe just more user friendly.
Based on the advice of our seasoned pump vendor, someone should be present during the routine runs to notice things like coupling damage or even just strange noises. They also recommend a good ol fashion pressure drop to initiate the routine run. Mountain Dew 20 oz. bottles make great water collectors from the sensing line valve. I'm not sure about the new version of NFPA 20, but the 2008 edition has a list of items to observe during the weekly run. So unless this comes with a camera system with sound and a bunch of sensors to monitor the conditions, I am not sure I see the point in the auto start. Maybe this is supposed to be a glorified alarm clock so the qualified staff remember when the local alarms go off to do the pump check. Ken Holsopple -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 3:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Remote fire pump start I was asked about this product and fail to see any real value for it. But I thought I'd throw this out and start discussion: http://www.262apex.com/md-xxii.html It's a remote start controller and they pitch it as satisfying NFPA 25, §8.3.1. 8.3.2.6 specifically says, "An automatic timer shall be permitted to be substituted for the starting procedure." This all seems to be adding up to something of value, but I have the following questions about the product and industry practices: 1) The product data boasts that it's UL 508 listed, but that's for general controls and it's certainly NOT a listed fire pump controller. Anyone agree with me that this could void the listing of an installed or proposed pump assembly? 2) A completely remote start is not in accordance with NFPA 25 §8.3.2.7 which requires that there be qualified personnel in attendance whenever the pump is in operation. 3) Anyone agree with me that if you take 8.3.2.7 literally, there's no real application for a product like this? 4) If there is an application, can someone explain how to apply this type of a control and what the value is to owner and/or service contractor? Thanks, Steve Leyton PROTECTION DESIGN & CONSULTING 2851 Camino del Rio South, Suite 400 San Diego, CA 92108 ------------------------------------------------------------- Ph: 858.751.2930 - ext. 102 Fax: 858.751.2933 Cell: 619.972.5696 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
