Right, not allowed any 101 exceptions (such as closets in apartments) in California.
Steve L. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of rongreenman . Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Bathroom/powder room/toilet room Only if adopted Duane. Steve lives in IBC Land. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C] < [email protected]> wrote: > 3.3.2 Bathroom. Within a dwelling unit, any room or compartment > dedicated to personal hygiene, containing a toilet, sink, or bathing > capability such as a shower or tub. > > A.3.3.2 Bathroom. A room is still considered a bathroom if it contains > just a toilet. Additionally, two bathrooms can be adjacent to each > other and are considered separate rooms, provided they are enclosed > with the required level of construction. A compartment containing only > a toilet, regardless of its intended use, is considered a bathroom. > > An interesting note...the existing hotel/dorm chapter 29 of NFPA 101 > (2013) has an exception for not installing sprinklers in bathrooms... > 29.3.5.5 In guest rooms and in guest room suites, sprinkler > installations shall not be required in closets not exceeding 24 ft2 > (2.2 > m2) and in bathrooms not exceeding 55 ft2 (5.1 m2). > > However, this exception does not exist for new hotel/dorms chapter 28 > of NFPA 101. Interpret this as you may. Also, NFPA 101 (the code), > supersedes NFPA 13 (the standard). > > > Duane Johnson, PE > Program Manager > Division of the Fire Marshal (Contractor) Office of Research Services > National Institutes of Health > 301-496-0487 > > "Protecting Science - One Sprinkler at a Time" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Leyton [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 7:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Bathroom/powder room/toilet room > > 2013 edition of 13 now requires sprinklers in all bathrooms except > conforming small ones in hotels. Anyone have insight on whether the > toilet-only compartment of a larger bathroom is considered a "bathroom" > or could that be excepted. How about a powder room that has no > cabinets or tub/shower but does have a basin and a toilet? > > > > Steve Leyton > > PROTECTION DESIGN & CONSULTING > > 2851 Camino del Rio South, Suite 400 > > San Diego, CA 92108 > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Ph: 858.751.2930 - ext. 102 > > Fax: 858.751.2933 > > Cell: 619.972.5696 > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, inventor and engineer (1876-1958) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler .org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
