Just wondering how an architect can be an EOR. An architect is not an engineer.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2014, at 10:25 AM, "Tim Stone" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Craig, > > In this case I was hired by the Architect to design a Sprinkler system for a > brand new Church. The project is in a rural setting so fire pump and tanks > are being used. Is it reasonable for the AHJ to expect the NICET certified > designer to perform this duty or shouldn't this responsibility fall back > onto the Architect who in this case would be the EOR? > > Regards, > G. Tim Stone > > G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC > NICET Level III Engineering Technician > Fire Protection Sprinkler Design > and Consulting Services > > 117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452 > CELL: (802) 373-0638 TEL: (802) 434-2968 Fax: (802) 434-4343 > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 11:03 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Water Supply Evaluation > > Is your project a rural or suburban project? > > Fire flow requirements should be identified by the EOR with direction from > the local or otherwise applicable fire authority. > > I typically make a call to the local fire authority to find out what method > is used to determine fire flow. There are several different methods out > there with requirements that vary greatly so guessing isn't a wise move. > > Once we know their approved method, we apply that info and determine what is > required to meet Code. Sometimes that entails a tank and pump, sometimes > not. > > Fire Flow is one thing that gets overlooked a lot in engineering design. We > recently had one contractor telling an owner that the requirements for fire > flow were ridiculous and he's never had to do that anywhere else. I hope he > doesn't do much design beyond 7-11 stores with his level of knowledge of the > Codes. > > Craig L. Prahl > Fire Protection Group Lead > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > Spartanburg, SC 29303 > Direct - 864.599.4102 > Fax - 864.599.8439 > CH2MHILL Extension 74102 > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Steele, Andrew > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:47 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Water Supply Evaluation > > This most likely is from the International Fire Code, Chapter 5, Fire > Service Features, (G) Section 507 Fire Protection Water Supplies. > Subsection 507.3 says "fire flow requirements for building or portions of > building and facilities shall be determined by an approved method". > In Ohio, this has been adopted direct into the Ohio Administrative Code. > I'm guessing any other jurisdiction using ICC are (or will) be doing the > same. > > Typically the local Fire Marshal will help facilitate the evaluation (to be > conducted by a private fire protection/water utility contractor) and will be > the one to review/approve it. > > Andrew Steele > Dayton, OH > (937) 333-4522 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim > Stone > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Water Supply > > > > Has anyone in other parts of the country run across this? > > I just received a copy of a state fire marshal's review letter on a new > project in which they are asking that the (Water supply for firefighting > shall be evaluated and provided in accordance with NFPA 1142). > > > > Who is responsible for this evaluation in your area? > > > > Regards, > > G. Tim Stone > > > > G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC > > NICET Level III Engineering Technician > > Fire Protection Sprinkler Design > > and Consulting Services > > > > 117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452 > > CELL: (802) 373-0638 TEL: (802) 434-2968 Fax: (802) 434-4343 > > <mailto:[email protected]> > [email protected] > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler > .org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
