His stand is that I have one of three options that I have not used:
(1) Density/area curves of Figure 11.2.3.1.1 in accordance with the
density/area method of 11.2.3.2
(2) The room that creates the greatest demand in accordance with the room
design method of 11.2.3.3
(3) Special design areas in accordance with 11.2.3.4

Keep in mind that this is a jurisdiction that has told me in the past that
you can't use the exceptions in 13 (this was before they became part of the
body), and that they can't use common sense.



Thank You,

Bob Knight, CET III
208-318-3057
www.Firebyknight.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Tim Stone
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 11:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Cooler Calc

The Cooler is a closed in room with a space above. You calculate all the
heads inside the cooler if less than 1500 SF. If the area outside the cooler
is fully sprinklered then you probably have performed calcs already. I'd ask
the AHJ to review NFPA 13.

Regards,
G. Tim Stone

G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC
NICET Level III Engineering Technician
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and Consulting Services

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-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 1:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Cooler Calc

I have a 1,392 sf cooler.  I calc'ed the entire area of the cooler and
submitted.  The AHJ is telling me that I need to calc additional sprinklers
at the ceiling to have a 1500 sf design area.  I don't think I need to do
this, I was looking at this as a separate fire area, and I don't see it
being much different than not adding heads below ducts or other large
obstructions.  Do I need to calc additional sprinklers at the ceiling for
this application?

Thank You,

Bob Knight, CET III
208-318-3057
www.Firebyknight.com





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