>From IBC 2012:

1009.16 Stairway to roof. 
In buildings four or more stories above grade plane, one stairway shall extend 
to the roof surface, unless the roof has a slope steeper than four units 
vertical in 12 units horizontal (33-percent slope). In buildings without an 
occupied roof, access to the roof from the top story shall be permitted to be 
by an alternating tread device.

[F] 905.4 Location of Class I standpipe hose connections. 
Class I standpipe hose connections shall be provided in all of the following 
locations:

5. Where the roof has a slope less than four units vertical in 12 units 
horizontal (33.3-percent slope), a hose connection shall be located to serve 
the roof or at the highest landing of a stairway with stair access to the roof 
provided in accordance with Section 1009.16.

6. Where the most remote portion of a nonsprinklered floor or story is more 
than 150 feet (45 720 mm) from a hose connection or the most remote portion of 
a sprinklered floor or story is more than 200 feet (60 960 mm) from a hose 
connection, the fire code official is authorized to require that additional 
hose connections be provided in approved locations.

Duane Johnson
Strickland Fire Protection


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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Pete Schwab
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 12:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Roof Hydrant Valves - Multi-Story Building

Jeremy
The 200 ft travel distance does not apply to the roof if it is not intended for 
occupancy Pete

7.3.2.2* Where the most remote portion of a nonsprinklered floor or story is 
located in excess of 150 ft (45.7 m) of travel distance from a hose connection 
in or adjacent to a required exit or the most remote portion of a sprinklered 
floor or story is located in excess of 200 ft (61 m) of travel distance from a 
hose connection in or adjacent to a required exit, additional hose connections 
shall be provided, in approved locations, where required by the local fire 
department or the AHJ.

7.3.2.2.1 The distance requirements in 7.3.2.2 shall not apply to the roof if 
it is not intended for occupancy.

Peter Schwab
VP of Purchasing and Engineering technologies

Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers Inc.
222 Capitol Court
Ocoee, Fl 34761

Mobile: (407) 468-8248
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jeremy Frazier
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Roof Hydrant Valves - Multi-Story Building

You shouldn't need a roof hydrant if you are under 200' from your last fire
hose valve to the furthest point on the roof,   but you do need to put the
fire hose valve at the highest landing to the roof hatch.
NFPA 14 2010
7.3.2 Class I systems shall be provided with 2½" hose connections in the 
following locations.....
(5) At the highest landing of stairways with stairway access to a roof, or on 
roofs with a slope of less than 4/12 where stairways do not access the
roof.   

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Roof Hydrant Valves - Multi-Story Building

We are having some differences of opinion with a local fire marshall requesting 
the installation of roof hydrant valve.  We are protecting a 4-story building 
that will be fully sprinklered utilizing a Class 1 - combination standpipe in 
the north stairwell and south stairwells.  Two standpipe stacks were provided 
to get the 200' travel distance across the building. Hose valves are located on 
intermediate landings.
Near the center of the building on the top floor there is a permanent ladder 
leading to a roof hatch.  The owner does not intend to utilize the roof for any 
type of occupancy, only service for MEP. Since the owner does not intend to use 
the roof for occupancy, our travel distance from our standpipe through the roof 
hatch is approx. 180'-0", and our roof slope is less than
4/12 we were not planning on installing any additional hose valves / roof 
hydrant valves in the small room where the roof hatch is located.
Were we right by leaving out the hose valve in this roof on the original design?
Thank you

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