Check out IBC 905.4.5 which addresses the valve on the standpipe.  Wisconsin is 
enforcing this standard.  

Norman Arendt, PhD, CFII
Middleton Fire District Plan Reviewer and Investigator
President Infragard Madison Alliance

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Frazier" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:31:12 PM
Subject: RE: Roof Hydrant Valves - Multi-Story Building

Is this in the 2013 Ed?  I'm not seeing it in 2010.  So it looks like no
matter which way you interpret it you do not need a roof hydrant valve, you
would only need a FHV at the highest landing near the roof access.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Pete Schwab
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 12:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Roof Hydrant Valves - Multi-Story Building

Jeremy
The 200 ft travel distance does not apply to the roof if it is not intended
for occupancy Pete

7.3.2.2* Where the most remote portion of a nonsprinklered floor or story is
located in excess of 150 ft (45.7 m) of travel distance from a hose
connection in or adjacent to a required exit or the most remote portion of a
sprinklered floor or story is located in excess of 200 ft (61 m) of travel
distance from a hose connection in or adjacent to a required exit,
additional hose connections shall be provided, in approved locations, where
required by the local fire department or the AHJ.

7.3.2.2.1 The distance requirements in 7.3.2.2 shall not apply to the roof
if it is not intended for occupancy.

Peter Schwab
VP of Purchasing and Engineering technologies

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Ocoee, Fl 34761

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-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Jeremy Frazier
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Roof Hydrant Valves - Multi-Story Building

You shouldn't need a roof hydrant if you are under 200' from your last fire
hose valve to the furthest point on the roof,   but you do need to put the
fire hose valve at the highest landing to the roof hatch.
NFPA 14 2010
7.3.2 Class I systems shall be provided with 2½" hose connections in the
following locations.....
(5) At the highest landing of stairways with stairway access to a roof, or
on roofs with a slope of less than 4/12 where stairways do not access the
roof.   

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Roof Hydrant Valves - Multi-Story Building

We are having some differences of opinion with a local fire marshall
requesting the installation of roof hydrant valve.  We are protecting a
4-story building that will be fully sprinklered utilizing a Class 1 -
combination standpipe in the north stairwell and south stairwells.  Two
standpipe stacks were provided to get the 200' travel distance across the
building. Hose valves are located on intermediate landings.
Near the center of the building on the top floor there is a permanent ladder
leading to a roof hatch.  The owner does not intend to utilize the roof for
any type of occupancy, only service for MEP. Since the owner does not intend
to use the roof for occupancy, our travel distance from our standpipe
through the roof hatch is approx. 180'-0", and our roof slope is less than
4/12 we were not planning on installing any additional hose valves / roof
hydrant valves in the small room where the roof hatch is located.
Were we right by leaving out the hose valve in this roof on the original
design?
Thank you

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