Be careful making your own inspection forms. You place a lot of liability on yourself when doing so.
Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor PH: 937-736-0425 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Hicks <[email protected]> To: sprinklerforum <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Apr 18, 2015 12:30 pm Subject: Re: 3 Year Air Test Some day, I may make my own forms. NFPA 25-2011 Supplement 4 has a nice inspection format. NFPA 25-2014 Page 613 has commentary about the forms. AFSA and NFSA also have forms. We usually ask for previous reports at new accounts. There are things we do not do because they are not listed on the inspection report. Things like checking the air compressor for oil, or water in the tank, adequate signs, wrenches that fit the sprinkler heads. I send a copy of the previous report, so we can make sure all problems that are not fixed, get noted/ Our customers are willing to pay more for our work because we do not stop at the sprinkler room. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 3 Year Air Test Where do you find the forms for this inspection? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 18, 2015, at 3:52 AM, "Douglas Hicks" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I list the deficiencies on the report. Then I reference the reasons > behind the requirement, quoting 13 & 25. I may copy a page or two from > the commentaries of 13 & 25. It also helps to enclose a copy of the > service report with the job estimate. We forget the people who make the > decisions, have no concept of what we do. > > -----Original Message----- From: rongreenman . > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 10:26 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: 3 Year Air Test > > Does the owner pay you to do it annually, every three years, or at all. > Whatever you contract to do is what you do. You use the appropriate form > and if it's a due item you mark it as not done, or if it fails.... If he > doesn't want to pay for any part you handle it the same way. it's his > responsibility to have things done. It's yours to do what he asks you to > do. You can advise him but ultimately it's his prerogative to take or > leave > your advice. > >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Jay Stough <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I have a question about the 3 year air test required for dry, deluge and >> preaction systems by NFPA 25 (2011 or 2014) 13.4.3.2.6 (preaction, >> deluge) >> or 13.4.4.2.9 (dry systems). I know I probably have the only customer >> that >> does not address the leaks after a failed test, so how would you handle >> the >> test? We record it as a failed test. Do you repeat the test annually >> until you get a satisfactory test; or just repeat the test in three >> years? >> After reading the above paragraphs, I could not find any guidance, in the >> standard or the handbook. >> >> *Jay Stough* >> NICET IV LAYOUT >> NICET III ITM >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > > > -- > Ron Greenman > Instructor > Fire Protection Engineering Technology > Bates Technical College > 1101 So. Yakima Ave. > Tacoma, WA 98405 > > [email protected] > > http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ > > 253.680.7346 > 253.576.9700 (cell) > > Member: > ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC > > They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis > Bacon, > essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) > > A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, > inventor and engineer (1876-1958) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
