Damien,
You have identified an issue that took more time in the Hanging and
Bracing committee meetings that you can imagine. The argument over
"shared support structures", now in 9.1.1.3, as being in conflict with
9.2.1.3.1 was like a professional wrestling match, only not quite as
subtle. 9.1.1.3.2 requires the 5X + 250, while 9.2.1.3.1 does not.
I suppose it depends on who's doing the evaluation. I don't
disagree with a word of what Steve Leyton said, however.
cheers old friend,
*Ken Wagoner, SET
*Parsley Consulting***
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*Escondido, California 92025
*****Phone 760-745-6181*
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On 06/05/2015 9:54 AM, Damien Shannon wrote:
Wouldn't the blocking only have to meet the 1x WP + 250# as wouldn't it be
considered an extension of the building structure/a trapeze?
Damien Shannon.
On 5 June 2015 at 17:27, Steve Leyton <[email protected]> wrote:
2x4 and 2x6 blocks have been casually used for years but we've learned in
the past 10 or so that they are NOT adequate by conventional engineering
standards and the 5x WP + 250# equation. For example, TrusJoist has block
details showing 4x4 members for piping up to 3 or 4" but that's only for
certain truss series and spacing that will support the loads of larger
pipe. You'll see a lot of details and listing limitations for certain
application of fasteners that are limited to 2" pipe, which goes to the
ability of the member to handle the load, not necessarily the capacity of
the blocking it's attached to when blocking is used.
I think the best answer to your question as asked is: Yes - for
engineered products such as joists and trusses, consult the manufacturer's
installation and reference materials and/or consult with the structural
engineer of record.
Steve L.
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From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of JD Gamble
Sent: Fri 6/5/2015 9:12 AM
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Subject: suspending from wood members attached to structural
What are the general guidelines for attaching to wood members attached to
structural wood trusses.
Example: Suspending 1 ΒΌ" steel sch 40 pipe using a 3/8 Sammy , ATR, and a
adjustable swivel hanger from a 2x4 nailed between two wood trusses? (I
don't see where this is an acceptable method of installation, but don't
want
to miss the forest for the trees either)
Surveying some existing work and trying to make a fair assessment of
additional hanger changes.
Thanks,
Life Safety Solutions of Sheridan
JD Gamble
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
(307) 763-3361
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