I missed the "exceeds" 2:12 pitch at some point on the curve, could still do it 
with SSP heads though...

Brian Harris, CET
BVS Systems Inc.
bvssytemsinc.com


-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of IPA
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 3:40 PM
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Subject: Re: ceilings with varying degrees of slope

3.3.5 Ceiling Types.
3.3.5.1 Flat Ceiling.    A continuous ceiling in a single plane.

I don't think anyone would look into the room you're describing and say "hey 
look at that flat ceiling!".



On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Brian Harris <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I think the key is the 36" vertical change.
>
> Brian Harris, CET
> BVS Systems Inc.
> bvssytemsinc.com
>
>
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>
> That's what we were thinking, but the figures show a flat, level 
> ceiling, whereas ours were curved. We were hesitant to make that jump 
> in interpreting sloping vs. flat concept.
>
> Ed
> Aero
>
>
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> Harris
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:54 AM
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>
> Take a look at 8.8.4.1.1.4 (2007), you should be fine so long as you 
> don't start getting into unprotected ceiling pockets....
>
> Brian Harris, CET
> BVS Systems Inc.
> bvssytemsinc.com
>
>
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> It's about 15 inches
>
> Ed
> Aero Automatic Sprinkler
>
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> Harris
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:49 AM
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> Subject: RE: ceilings with varying degrees of slope
>
> What's the difference in vertical height between the "flat" ceiling 
> and the high point of the "curved" ceiling?
>
> Brian Harris, CET
> BVS Systems Inc.
> bvssytemsinc.com
>
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>
> Good morning all,
> We have a situation where there are multiple sections of ceilings that 
> start off flat/level for several feet and then curve upwards with a 
> pitch that will exceed 2:12 at some point in the curve. This situation 
> occurs in a repeating pattern over a large section of floor area. At 
> the top of the curve there is a small slot that serves as a return air 
> opening. The design intent was to use concealed, quick response, 
> ordinary hazard, extended coverage sprinklers located in the flat part 
> of the ceiling. The question is "this a flat ceiling?". Does the 
> portion of the ceiling that exceeds
> 2:12 nullify the use of the flat ceiling design?
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