Language , language , language. As Pete said, maybe a little bit of an expansion on it, real-estate is a separate language from builder, and quite often different from code. And we all know ICC and NFPA are different dialects. Certain words that are the same sound and spelling may mean completely different things depending who says it and who is listening. So an ICC townhouse is quite different from a real estate one, and depending on jurisdiction.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Pete Schwab <[email protected]> wrote: > Owen > If the townhouse units are separated with the appropriate walls by the > local building code, then yes 13D is acceptable. Beware that sometimes > builders call apartments "townhomes". Check the platting to see if they are > all individual lots. As for the water supply arrangement you mention, that > does not appear as one of the options in 13D A.6.2. However that is annex > material. If the AHJ is willing to accept that arrangement, it meets the > Chapter 6 requirement for an automatic water supply. The issue is who owns > the water meter and the bill. Is there an association? We see a similar > arrangement quite often here in Florida because the water purveyor is > afraid of shutting off the sprinkler system when turning off water for > non-payment. They provide a single tap and we install a single backflow and > run underground and up into each townhome. Make sure that your AHJ finds > this an acceptable arrangement. > Pete > > Peter Schwab > VP of Purchasing and Engineering technologies > > Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers Inc. > 222 Capitol Court > Ocoee, Fl 34761 > > Mobile: (407) 468-8248 > Direct: (407) 877-5570 > Fax: (407) 656-8026 > > www.waynefire.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Owen Evans > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 2:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: 13D installed in Townhouse? > > > The definition on townhouse is a one-family dwelling constructed in > attached groups of three or more units in which each unit extends from the > foundation to the roof and has open space on at least two sides. > > > Question: > Does that mean if you had five attached townhouses you can install 13D > system in each unit (each having a system riser with flow switch and bell), > with all five townhouses being supplied off of one water meter (five risers > being served by one meter) with the most remote/demanding unit being > calculated per 13D, 2 heads flowing? In other words, each unit has it's > own water meter supplying domestic needs, with a sixth, stand alone water > meter, supplying all six townhouses 13D system? Yes or NO? > > > Or > > > Does that mean each unit, because they are attached but separated > foundation to roof, can have a 13D system, each being supplied off its own > domestic water meter? > > > Owen Evans > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, inventor and engineer (1876-1958) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
