Right.  Some us have already had a really good laugh over that.  They 
apparently made this extraordinarily impactful decision and then forgot to edit 
the standards in that regard.   





-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Hinson, Ryan
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 1:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Dots and bars

Except that the following paragraph preceding Chapter 1:  "Changes other than 
editorial are indicated by a vertical rule beside the paragraph, table, or 
figure in which the change occurred. These rules are included as an aid to the 
user in identifying changes from the previous edition. Where one or more 
complete paragraphs have been deleted, the deletion is indicated by a bullet 
(•) between the paragraphs that remain."...was also removed.

Ryan L. Hinson, PE*, SET**  \  Burns & McDonnell Senior Fire Protection 
Engineer O 952-656-3662 \  M 320-250-5404  \  F 952-229-2923 
[email protected]  \  burnsmcd.com
8201 Norman Center Drive, Suite 300  \  Bloomington, MN 55437 *Registered in: 
MN & TX **NICET IV - Water-Based Systems Layout


-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Roland Huggins
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 3:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Dots and bars

 I suspect it was a logistics hick-up with the software and not an intentional 
decision since EVERYBODY found them useful.  Many have complained to the NFPA.  
 I believe they are suppose to be working on resurrecting that feature and 
maybe something of an interim measure to help with the standards missing it.  
Haven’t seen anything but time will tell.

All you NFPA members out there should let them know your thoughts.  Shall we 
start with - Somebody get a rope….

Roland


Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
American Fire Sprinkler Assn.       ---      Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives
Dallas, TX
http://www.firesprinkler.org <http://www.firesprinkler.org/>





> On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Hinson, Ryan <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Is there a reason the bars along new standard text and dots next to sections 
> that have been removed...have been omitted from NFPA 13 (2016) and other 
> standards...NFPA 11(2016), etc.?  I for one found these to be helpful in the 
> past when multiple editions needed to be researched to determine code 
> compliance.
> 
> Ryan L. Hinson, PE*, SET**  \  Burns & McDonnell Senior Fire 
> Protection Engineer O 952-656-3662 \  M 320-250-5404  \  F
> 952-229-2923 [email protected]  \ 
> burnsmcd.com<http://www.burnsmcd.com/>
> 8201 Norman Center Drive, Suite 300  \  Bloomington, MN 55437 
> *Registered in: MN & TX **NICET IV - Water-Based Systems Layout 
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