We do this often. Depending on the situation, but in most case we find it pretty easy to determine the obvious remote area(s) and we only survey the path(s) back to the base of riser. SOme jobs of course you have toi survey them all because you cannot tell without running the calcs.
Greg McGahan Living Water Fire Protection, LLC <http://www.livingwaterfp.com> 1160 McKenzie Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 fax 850-937-1852 On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Bruce Verhei <[email protected]> wrote: > Bill > > Would an hour's time now remove it as an issue in the future? The FD or > plan reviewing agency might have the original documentation, even if the > designing firm is gone. A calc plate might close issue. Just note it is > recreation, and origin of data. > > Is current occupant OH1 or 2, and system obviously to an experienced eye > with some knowledge of public water system, a fairly beefy system? > Comparison: If someone uses a 12"x6" steel I-beam for an 8' wide garage > door header in a one-story ranch with 25 pound snow load, do you need > stamped engineering calc's? > > Or is occupancy Class A plastics in double row racks to 20', with 8' > aisles? > > Best > > Bruce > > > > On Feb 1, 2016, at 13:16, Kevin Eanes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > i would just write up the midsing data plate as a definciency on the insp > > report and let the AHJ tell the property owner that he needs to get a > calc > > survey.all u can do is get the numbers from the drain test to verify the > > water supply is normal.i doubt anyone will ever push the issue on him but > > as long as its noted on your report your ass is covered > >> On Feb 1, 2016 4:11 PM, "Todd Williams" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> The survey and Calc is the only way to be sure. I've seen some placards > >> that w > >> ere total crap and it has created problems > >> > >> Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT > >> 860-535-2080 (ofc) 860-608-4559 (cell) > >> Sent using CloudMagic [ > >> https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=pi&cv=6.0.64&pv=8.2] > >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 4:03 PM, [email protected] > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A client of mine has posed a question. > >> I understand part of a system inspection is to verify the adequacy of > the > >> water > >> supply. Many older buildings are missing the hydraulic placard on the > >> riser, and > >> original plans/calcs are not available. > >> > >> A full-blown survey and hydraulic calculation is too expensive and the > >> owner > >> will balk at it. > >> > >> Those of you who are involved in inspections, how do you handle this and > >> what > >> would you recommend? > >> Would a rough 'guestimate' suffice depending on the occupancy? > >> > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> > >> > >> Bill Menster > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > >> > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > >> > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
