I wouldn't jump the gun on the older systems. They were more than likely pipe scheduled and don't require someone out there charging the owner a few grand surveying and running new calcs on something that was never hydraulically calculated in the first place. A visual inspection and the age of the system should help determine that if all other information is lacking.
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 5:52 PM, rongreenman . <[email protected]> wrote: > NFPA says to see that it conforms with 13 and 25. that would be format, not > data. If it's not there it is a deficiency and needs to be replaced. > (NFPA25/14 Table 5.5.1) Replacement may require a survey and re-calc but > that is outside the scope of 25 and that is explicitly stated in the > document. (NFPA25/14 5.5.3) > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Steve Leyton <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > We have AHJ'S that will issue,a correction notice for missing placards. > If > > it is noted on an inspection as a deficiency, and if you're AHJs want > > copies of inspections to be filed with them, then that would be a > > potential enforcement benchmark. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: [email protected] > > Date: 2/1/2016 2:03 PM (GMT-07:00) > > To: sprinklerforum <[email protected]> > > Subject: Hydraulic Placards > > > > A client of mine has posed a question. > > I understand part of a system inspection is to verify the adequacy of the > > water supply. Many older buildings are missing the hydraulic placard on > the > > riser, and original plans/calcs are not available. > > > > A full-blown survey and hydraulic calculation is too expensive and the > > owner will balk at it. > > > > Those of you who are involved in inspections, how do you handle this and > > what would you recommend? > > Would a rough 'guestimate' suffice depending on the occupancy? > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > Bill Menster > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > > > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > > > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > > > > > -- > Ron Greenman > Instructor > Fire Protection Engineering Technology > Bates Technical College > 1101 So. Yakima Ave. > Tacoma, WA 98405 > > [email protected] > > http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ > > 253.680.7346 > 253.576.9700 (cell) > > Member: > ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC > > They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, > essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) > > A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, > inventor and engineer (1876-1958) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
