Ya I agree, but when I sit down with plan reviewer, fire marshal , 3rd party review/FPE and the clients I'd like to say that everyone on the sprinkler forum board agreed with me. Thanks for pointing out the AHJ FAQ, I forget those are there sometimes......that basically makes this a closed case.
Rocci Cetani III, CET Lead Designer Water-Based Fire Protections Systems Layout, Nicet Level III Northern California Fire Protection Services Inc. 16840 Joleen Way Bldg. A Morgan Hill, CA 93037 P-(408) 776-1580 EXT.111 F-(408) 776-1590 [email protected] www.norcalfire.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and any document accompanying it may contain confidential information belonging to the sender. The information is intended only for the use of individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone to arrange for return of the documents. -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Morey, Mike Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 5:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: expanded Group A plastics Who needs opinions when you have definitions and explanatory material: NFPA 13 2013: 3.9.1.13 Expanded (Foamed or Cellular) Plastics. Those plastics, the density of which is reduced by the presence of numerous small cavities (cells), interconnecting or not, dispersed throughout their mass. NFPA 13 2013 Handbook see page 125, the AHJ FAQ in the top right corner explicitly addresses water bottles as not expanded plastic as well. > On Feb 4, 2016, at 6:47 PM, Rocci Cetani 3 <[email protected]> wrote: > > I need some others opinions on what an "expanded" plastic is. I have > always been under the impression expanded plastics refer to materials > like Styrofoam where the plastic has many small cavities...I have a > 3rd party plan reviewer telling me that plastic water bottles and > water bottle lids are considered expanded plastics. Any input would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thank You > > > > Rocci Cetani III, CET > > Lead Designer > > Water-Based Fire Protections Systems Layout, Nicet Level III > > > > Northern California Fire Protection Services Inc. > > 16840 Joleen Way Bldg. A > > Morgan Hill, CA 93037 > > P-(408) 776-1580 EXT.111 > > F-(408) 776-1590 > > > > > > [email protected] > > www.norcalfire.com <http://www.norcalfire.com/> > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and any document accompanying it > may contain confidential information > > belonging to the sender. The information is intended only for the use > of individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended > recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver this > message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, copying or taking of any action in reliance on the > contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone to arrange for return of the documents. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
