My Canon iPF755 takes about 1 minute to dry.
Mike

> From: [email protected]
> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:00:42 -0400
> Subject: Re: Wide format plotters
> To: [email protected]
> 
> Thanks all for the responses.  My personal feeling is that color paper
> drawings are somewhat deprecated by the large influx of inexpensive and
> durable tablet computers.  With programs like BIM 360 Glue, you can access
> an entire 3D model of a building in real time with very little lag, and
> also use GPS tagging and QR codes to get augmented reality output of tricky
> install setups and such.
> 
> I am a very pro-technology type of person, so it feels so odd to not buy in
> fully to color paper prints, especially when the idea behind it is coming
> from one of the people in our company who I would typically classify as a
> Luddite. Maybe he misses the old HP450C we threw away 8 years ago?
> 
> At this point, though, after talking to our Canon rep, the Colorwave 500 is
> actually less expensive than the Plotwave 750 which would be the closest
> match to our current machine.  The TDS 600 does have a separate scanner, so
> we will actually free up some space to possibly have another device if need
> be.
> 
> For those using the Canon iPFs, do you have any drying issues with typical
> construction prints?  I'm sure for larger prints or more color intense
> stuff you would need coated paper, no?
> 
> The big push in 'construction for color prints' from what I could find
> Googling the crap out of this last night is that full color architectural
> and other permit-type prints can save money on the back end my limiting the
> amount of missed items and change orders, etc. etc.
> 
> The problem with this theory, though, is that most of the A/Es we deal with
> don't output color PDFs, they're all monochrome!  So until everyone goes to
> color, the benefit of printing construction drawing sets just doesn't
> exist.  That leaves just us printing our own drawings and/or overlays when
> and if we directly get CAD files from other trades.
> 
> Our company also does fire alarm, HVAC, plumbing and process piping, and I
> color is pretty standard in the alarm field.
> 
> 
> That all being said, if I can get a better idea of the output of the Oce
> toner pearls, especially in black, if its close to the output of the B5 we
> use now, then we will be OK there, since they cost roughly the same.  Color
> for our letter-size printer is crazy expensive, and they lock down that
> printer pretty tightly.
> 
> There is actually a sort-of consumer reports for printers as well, a place
> called http://www.buyerslab.com/ but they're subscription only and I cannot
> see how to even purchase a report or two from them, it seems more geared
> towards people who sell printers and print services.
> 
> -Ben
> 
> 
> Benjamin Young
> 
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Tom Duross <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > I've got an old Mutoh pen/pencil plotter back in the original box you can
> > have for $1.
> > My HP T1100 is a workhorse, very happy with HP.
> >
> > I've been asked to get a plan in place for when we have to replace our
> > current plotter.  We have an Oce TDS 600 which is hard to get electrical
> > parts for, and the controller is causing our IT department all kinds of
> > headaches.
> >
> > The TDS 600 is really a beast of a printer and hasn't been down more than
> > half a day in over five years, so we're very happy with the Oce Brand.
> >
> > My issue is going to Color.  Right now I'm looking at the Colorwave 500,
> > which is slightly slower, but isn't inkjet based (gel toner pearls, instant
> > dry, no special paper, etc.) Have others moved into color for their field
> > prints?
> >
> > Obviously bid drawings are rarely in color, so I'm thinking only about
> > 5-10%
> > of the printing we do is going to be in color, and we average about
> > 16,000 sqft per month.
> >
> > Any other manufacturers I should consider that can match the long-term
> > reliability of Oce?
> >
> >
> > So consumer reports doesn't test plotters, so reviews or other pro/con
> > information is scant for me at this point, so I thought I would throw this
> > out to the sprinkler forum people since we probably all have to print our
> > stuff out at some point.
> >
> > Any input or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Benjamin Young
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