I use RPZ as a generic term.

Also I am going under the assumption that I MUST separate my sprinkler from the 
domestic at the point of connection. However it was brought to my attention 
that this may not be required in NFPA anyway. While the thought of sprinkler 
water and domestic water sickens me a bit ... can someone show me where NFPA 
says I must separate them with a backflow?

John Irwin
Sprinkler Construction Manager
Critical System Solutions, LLC
Cell:     813.618.2781
Email:  
jir...@criticalsystemsolutions.com<mailto:jir...@criticalsystemsolutions.com>


From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On 
Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 11:07 AM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Two Backflows

I don't think there's any prohibition and we've been asked to do this before.  
I would check with serving water and fire departments to be sure that both 
devices satisfy the requirement of their respective masters.  RPZ's are not UL 
classified for fire service and usually configured with non-indicating valves 
for general water service.   NFPA standards require ALL valves controlling fire 
protection water supplies to be LISTED (for fire service) indicating type and 
building code requires them to be supervised.  Have fun ...

Steve

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On 
Behalf Of John Irwin
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 8:03 AM
To: 
sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org>
Subject: Two Backflows

I am working on a project where the developer and site contractor have decided 
that fire and domestic should share an underground line around the site and to 
the building. At the street there is a meter assembly and a Wilkins 375A RPZ. I 
would need to install an additional backflow at my point of connection because 
the line is shared all the way to the water room. Other than being a dumb way 
to do this and having two pressure losses in my calculations, is there any code 
that says I can't gave two RPZs in my water line?


John Irwin
Sprinkler Construction Manager

Critical System Solutions, LLC
2830 Scherer Drive, Suite 300
St. Petersburg, FL  33716
Office: 727.209.5122
Fax:      727.209.5126
Cell:     813.618.2781
Email:  
jir...@criticalsystemsolutions.com<mailto:jir...@criticalsystemsolutions.com>



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