I will check your links tomorrow Nicky- they look interesting.
I've worked on several systems in Qatar. Qatar Civil Defense has very detailed requirements for fire modeling these systems, and negative impact on sprinkler activation is not mentioned. These small impulse fans direct the car exhaust toward the huge exhaust shafts as part of normal operation--- they have two speeds-- normal and emergency. The 10m/s is the emergency speed. If a signal from a flow switch is used kick them to emergency speed, the sprinklers already activated.

Brad

Quoting Nicky Marshall <ni...@protechdesign.co.nz>:

Are Jet/impulse fans installed in basement carparks a serious concern to the successful operation of sprinklers?

Example of the fans: http://www.fantech.com.au/FanRange.aspx?AppID=P2&RangeID=2021 which also discusses some installation recommendations with regards to sprinklers.

We are starting to see more of these installed in basement carparks as a cheaper option to ducted systems. The velocity is around 10 m/s (32 ft/sec) at the fan discharge point. But 1-2 m/s at chest height over car park areas. Obviously this impacts air and heat movement and sprinkler operation. But if they are installed in drive lanes only (where there is no fire load) and shut down as soon as one sprinkler operates, is the risk largely mitigated? FM Global data sheets only discuss air velocities for storage sprinklers. It appears to be silent for non-storage sprinklers.
I cannot find anything in NFPA 13.
New South Wales Australia, the Fire Service are asking for additional smoke detection to shut the fans down (unless fire modelling shows it is acceptable). Is this really necessary? https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/gallery/files/pdf/guidelines/impulse_fans_in_carparks.pdf There was also a case study done based on fire modelling. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214398X13000034 , but every building and system is different...

We agree that it needs to be considered, but are unsure that an additional detection system is necessary.
Your thoughts and input appreciated.

Nicky Marshall
Southern Regional Manager
PROTECH DESIGN LIMITED
Specialist Fire Protection Consultants
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