Brian,

   NFPA and NFA seminars.  The definition of 13R is for up to and including 
four floors.  It doesn't prohibit the building from having more floors just 
like if the first floor was mercantile or business (like a hotel).  You would 
design the first floor, fifth floor, and attic as NFPA 13, with the 
second-fourth per NFPA 13R.  As Art stated it probably makes more sense to 
design all 13 using the dwelling unit sections.  The attic will probably be the 
most demanding (and dry) so your design criteria would be 2535 @ 0.10 (assuming 
pitch).  Once you go over four stories you end up losing the exception of attic 
sprinklers.

Duane

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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:55 PM
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Subject: RE: Apartment Crawl Space

Duane-
That's an interesting thought. What section in 13 ?

Brian Harris, CET
BVS Systems Inc.
bvssytemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/>

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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:52 PM
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Subject: RE: Apartment Crawl Space

According to NFPA you can do a 13-R for the first four floors and a 13 system 
on the 5th floor and attic.  I think you need to look at the IBC/IRC to see if 
there are building code requirements in the crawl space (assuming a normal 
crawl space).

Duane T. Fox, Jr., CFPS, CFI, CFPE
Asst Chief, Technical Services
DE State Fire Marshal's Office
302-856-5298



From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:30 PM
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Subject: Apartment Crawl Space

Looking at a (5) story apartment building so I assume it would need to be per 
NFPA-13 correct? With that being said is there anything in the Standard that 
addresses the crawl space underneath? Concealed Space?

Brian Harris, CET
BVS Systems Inc.
Design Manager
bvssystemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/>
Phone: 704.896.9989
Fax: 704.896.1935

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