A much more lucid response than "Xanax".   Good info Craig - thanks for posting 
this link.   I've actually had this conversation a couple times in the context 
of FP planning, though have never had to deal with an AHJ who second-guessed 
the standard regarding sprinkler basis of design.

SL

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Rubber Tire Storage

Tires are tires. Tires are not plastic milk jugs.

Today's modern tires are a composition of numerous materials.  Natural and 
synthetic rubbers are used in various proportions depending the tire use group. 
 But regardless, synthetic rubber or not, the chemical characteristics, 
ignition and burning properties of materials deemed Group A plastics is not the 
same as the rubber materials used in tires.   Also, the shape and design of the 
tire and how they are   stored make it a unique commodity compared to typical 
plastic commodities.  Tires are not just a group A plastic.

https://itstillruns.com/chemical-properties-tires-8176244.html




Craig L. Prahl
Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
JACOBS - CH2M
200 Verdae Blvd.
Greenville, SC  29607
Direct - 864.920.7540
Fax - 864.920.7129
CH2MHILL Extension  77540
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>


From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of James Crawford
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 12:56 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Rubber Tire Storage [EXTERNAL]

NFPA #13 (2013) is my reference.

I have an AHJ that is telling me that Rubber Tires are classified as a Group 
"A" plastic for the purpose of commodity classifications.

I have informed him that Rubber Tires are a commodity classification on their 
own, but he disagrees, he says there are a synthetic rubber so are a Group "A" 
plastic.

I have shown him the Table A5.6.3 for Commodity classifications in NFPA #13 
where rubber tires are not mentioned and chapter 18 that deals with Rubber Tire 
storage but he still disagrees.

Any suggestions?


Thank you


James Crawford
Phaser Fire Protection Ltd.
Phone  604-888-0318
Fax 604-888-4732
Cel 604-790-0938
Email  [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Web www.phaserfire.ca<http://www.phaserfire.ca>

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