All true, but apples to oranges. A commercial woodshop is a step above a school woodshop. We do an awful lot of schools work and you would be amazed at what a modern high school woodshop looks like Mark. Multi station dust collectors are the norm. It's definitely at least an ordinary hazard. A commercial wood shop is Extra Hazard, the debate there being whether it's Group 1 or Group 2.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Mark.Phelps" <[email protected]> Date: 4/21/18 2:15 PM (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Wood Shop Classroom Classification of Hazard The one thing I would add to this is to compare the fire loading between a commercial cabinet/wood shop and the classroom environment. A typical commercial shop would have sheet goods and lumber inventory for hundreds of cabinets, as well as hundreds of boxed finished goods. A typical wood shop classroom environment would have nothing close to that. Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Steve Leyton <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: NFPA 13 speaks to the nature of the use, not just the label of a particular building or compartment. If it has fire load, or processes, or byproduct of those processes that make it more hazardous, then it's more hazardous. Out here in California were used to fire protecting vocational technology and science and shop (auto, wood, metal) classrooms to the higher hazard classification because they may contain pressurized natural gas, welding or soldering, flammable liquids, open burners higher levels of dust, etc. I agree with you - stay the course. Steve L. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: joseph kuerzi <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: 4/21/18 11:42 AM (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Wood Shop Classroom Classification of Hazard I interpret the hazard classification of 3000sqft Wood Shop Classroom (High/Middle School) as Ordinary II - Wood Machining/Wood Product Assembly. I was told that I was incorrect in my classification since it was a classroom and not a Woodshop Facility. I can not find justification in the standards to down grade the hazard classification to Light or Ordinary I just because the room is a classroom. Am I missing something? NFPA 13, 2010ed and IBC 2012 Sincerely, Joe Kuerzi Jr., SET Certified Protection Services LLC 175 Sky Aire Rd. NW Corydon, IN 47112 Fire Protection & Water Back-flow Prevention Systems Installation, Maintenance, Repair, & Inspections Contact - Joseph C. Kuerzi Jr., SET 812-738-2970 office 502-551-8530 mobile *preferred [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.firesprinkler.org_listinfo.cgi_sprinklerforum-2Dfiresprinkler.org&d=DwICAg&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=dLwiR71i_XhSFqam3ZLeaFLiQJ3cDTUB0ReB4-yDDcg&m=GV9x52NVphDNsWHM5QokaLumr6hpYXTeynUOAypTGXk&s=S4pTAkCBlvSSlKqf_9PKE9CDSPCxOW775TQzzEPe0Ac&e=
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