Travis is definitely right. We have a concept we use in NYC, as we run into this all the time, and in fact I am working on a building right now that is four level stackers. With that being said it is always a best guess without the guidance and the EOR should guide you.
Mike Stossel SET [400dpiLogoCropped] 36 Barren Road East Stroudsburg, PA 18302 Office: 973-670-2627 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Travis Mack Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 11:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Robotic Parking You are going to have to get the EOR that created your “engineered” drawing involved to give you a hazard since it doesn’t seem to be addressed in NFPA 13. You may want to try to contact the company that designed the robotic car system and see if they can give any guidance. I bet your EOR has a comment to design to NFPA 13 and figures he is off the hook. Just kick it back to them. It’s Friday. Make it his weekend project to do his job of giving the proper criteria. I bet that goes over well. Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC "Follow" us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 Send large files to MFP Design via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign Sent from my iPhone On Jul 13, 2018, at 8:40 AM, John Irwin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: This is 7 levels of cars stacked vertically. We are in the 2013 edition of NFPA 13. John Irwin, C.E.T. – [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Commercial Fire and Communications Fire Sprinkler Specialist – NICET ID: 134153 Cell: 727-282-9243 From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Travis Mack Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 11:38 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Robotic Parking If this is the “car stackers” mentioned in 2016 edition, then it is only for 2 levels high. Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC "Follow" us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 Send large files to MFP Design via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign Sent from my iPhone On Jul 13, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Nick Maneen <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: 2016 Edition of 13 calls these Extra Hazard. These are a challenge to say the least. Good luck. I wish I had a better answer for you. Nick Maneen 704-791-7789 On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 11:33 AM John Irwin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Anyone have any experience with these new robotic parking buildings? My “engineered” plans are pretty bad. No hazard is given. I am going to assume the same as a parking garage? I don’t see this as being too challenging, but I am wondering if there is some huge pitfall that I am not aware of. It’s pretty much 7 floors of this …. <image001.png> The top floor doesn’t show the center area protected. I’m wondering if it needs to be … John Irwin _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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