Yes sir - it was added for the 2016 edition of NFPA 13 and remained the same for the 2019 edition. Problem solved.
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Donate today! <https://www.redcross.org/donate/cm/afsa-pub.html/> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 2:16 PM Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > This has been addressed in the 2016 Edition: > > > > 9.2.3.4.4.4 and 9.2.3.5.2.2 both state “unless flexible sprinkler hose > fittings are used”. > > > > So it doesn’t say it in 2013 Edition, but it’s clear what the intent was > an the direction the code is going. > > > > -Kyle M > > > > *From:* Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> *On > Behalf Of *Jeff Garrison via Sprinklerforum > *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2020 10:45 AM > *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > *Cc:* Jeff Garrison <jeffgarrison1...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 2013 ed - hangers and pressures above > 100psi > > > > The Bracket IS the LAST hanger, per Flex manufacturers I have talked to, > but, > NFSA gave us an opinion that a 13" arm-over to a Flex still needs a hanger > if you are over 100 psi, 'cause that's what the book says. > > > *Jeff Garrison* > > *248-331-6164 - cell* > > > > > > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 1:36 PM Dewayne Martinez via Sprinklerforum < > sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the input. My fitter brought this up to me and after > I read the sections I was still not sure. John’s comment makes perfect > sense. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Dewayne Martinez > > Fire Protection Design Manager > > > > *TOTAL Mechanical* > > *Building* *Integrity* > > > W234 N2830 Paul Rd. > Pewaukee, WI 53072 > > dmarti...@total-mechanical.com > > Ph: 262-522-7110 > > Cell: 414-406-5208 > > http://www.total-mechanical.com/ > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.total-2Dmechanical.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=Z_2A85VL7AQzoqudh6uOyS3bn8etxB7nLN8OBJwQd9A&m=GuyXOYFE8HWi-Xbn5-IZb_9eM04tODDhEKXoCHgTBqA&s=8ZVozdgRafXPDNc9hOhE4TDBNzPR53EiPeCO0g4UDXM&e=> > > > > > > > *From:* Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> *On > Behalf Of *John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum > *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2020 10:41 AM > *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > *Cc:* John Denhardt <jdenha...@firesprinkler.org> > *Subject:* Re: NFPA 13, 2013 ed - hangers and pressures above 100psi > > > > In my opinion, no. The flexible drop assembly is anchored to the > ceiling. The point of this requirement is to keep the pendent sprinkler > from moving upwards during activation. 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