Per Tyco TFP1680 for the LFP Solution, Page 3 of 6 gives the criteria for use to up 500 gal capacity. Now, that is only light hazard. 40 gal for OH and Storage.
In a 13 system, there is the extra criteria for the >200 gal up to 500 gallon. Maybe the rep was unaware of their data sheet. Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, COC, SET Engineering Manager MFP Design 3356 E Vallejo Ct Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 ext. 700 C: 480-272-2471 mailto:[email protected] www.mfpdesign.com Send large files to us via: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hightail.com%2Fu%2FMFPDesign&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1121d49f9e6b4cf248f108d4df580e77%7C14e5497c16da42e69ffa77d19bafe511%7C0%7C0%7C636379016677342180&sdata=eGdMZGu2wXhUupGwgGTrqF3b54OP5%2BAZvlHhABSexWY%3D&reserved=0 From: Larry Keeping <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 8:28 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Travis Mack <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Tyco LFP - antifreeze I beg to differ. I was looking into using the new TYCO A/F on one of my projects, but when I met with one of their reps. I was advised that the listing is for system volumes of 50 US gallons or less. Best regards, Larry Larry Keeping. P.Eng. Senior Technical Specialist PLC FIRE SAFETY SOLUTIONS 3413 Wolfedale Road, Suite 7 Mississauga, ON L5C 1V8 Phone: 905-949-2755 Ext 204 Fax: 905-949-1752 Email: mailto:[email protected] Website: http://www.plcfire.com Toll Free: 1-800-675-2755 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. The recipient should also check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum Sent: February 10, 2021 10:22 AM To: mailto:[email protected] Cc: mailto:[email protected] Subject: RE: Tyco LFP - antifreeze Warning! This email came from outside your company. Interesting stuff with the AF. It is good for up to 500 gal system capacity. However, if you are over 200 gallons, you must calculate as a dry system. That seems to negate the use of AF over 200 gallon capacity. Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, COC, SET Engineering Manager MFP Design 3356 E Vallejo Ct Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 ext. 700 C: 480-272-2471 mailto:[email protected] http://www.mfpdesign.com Send large files to us via: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hightail.com%2Fu%2FMFPDesign&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1121d49f9e6b4cf248f108d4df580e77%7C14e5497c16da42e69ffa77d19bafe511%7C0%7C0%7C636379016677342180&sdata=eGdMZGu2wXhUupGwgGTrqF3b54OP5%2BAZvlHhABSexWY%3D&reserved=0 From: Sprinklerforum <mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Williams via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 8:19 AM To: mailto:[email protected] Cc: David Williams <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Tyco LFP - antifreeze Hey Scott and other cold weather practitioners in Fire Protection. Any feed back on the "new" Tyco LFP antifreeze. Looks like it may have some use in southern MN locations, but with Duluth at annual 99% extreme of -24.9 and 50 year extreme at -36.6 maybe not such a good idea yet. We plan on sticking with the dry systems we have been specifying since the flammability concerns about glycol came out unless working south of Minneapolis! As per Scott we spec nitrogen for dry systems, but it sure seems owners want to take the VE from the sprinkler contractors even when we present the long term value to them. David Toshio Williams, PE*, FPE - Lead MEP/FP Engineer (*Registered in MN, WI, MI, IA, IL, IN, ND, VT) 21 West Superior Street, Suite 500, Duluth, MN 55802 Direct 218.279.2436 | Cell 218.310.2446 LHBcorp.com LHB, Inc. | PERFORMANCE DRIVEN DESIGN. ...sent from the cloud through the tubes! _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list mailto:[email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list mailto:[email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
