I’ve been told many times that the only time the fire dept gets to see anything 
about the building is with fire sprinkler plan review so we sometimes get the 
off the wall comments for things that are not in our scope.  The plan reviewer 
knows it is not in our scope, but the only way they can get the information 
verified.  So, tell the POR to do the correct work on the plan side in the 
beginning on the next project and get the flow test done – with appropriate 
markup – on this project so you can move on to the next one.

I can’t tell you how many times we come across things like this on a weekly 
basis.

Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, COC, SET
Engineering Manager
MFP Design
3356 E Vallejo Ct
Gilbert, AZ 85298
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From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of Owen Evans via Sprinklerforum
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 6:54 AM
To: Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum <[email protected]>
Cc: Owen Evans <[email protected]>
Subject: Fire Flow Test for SFR

Has anyone had an AHJ require a fire flow test for a single family residence 
situated in a metropolitan area? Not for the purpose of calculations but to 
ensure the municipal water delivery system could handle  the 500 gpm required 
(1000 gpm per California Residential Fire Code minus a 500 gpm credit for 
having fire sprinklers). This is a waste of time and money. It takes 
approximately four weeks to get done by water company, at a cost of $500.
Has anyone argued against such a requirement, and how? I tried but was met with 
“because I wear a badge and I say so”. The general didn’t want to argue with 
AHJ, he decided to pay to avoid any further delay.

Owen Evans



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