Might want to rethink the truck full of fire works comment. Save it for the
steering wheel when you are driving home.
Appendix A.8.15.7.2 and A.8.15.7.5 NFPA 13 2013 Edition (yes Michigan is
really moving on getting current) 
I feel explains it pretty well.
Bruce

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Subject: RE: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

AHJ's get really fun in a hurry when arguing semantics. Point this
individual to a dictionary which will define temporary as "lasting for only
a limited period of time; not permanent." If permanent parking is meant to
assume parked for the night, it would be a REASONABLE assumption that a
delivery driver would only ever be parked in a temporary fashion, not
permanently.

I think the term temporary was chosen in the standard for the sole reason of
it not having a definite time. Otherwise it would have to be enforced and
monitored.

I have found that in situations like this, the only resolution is to bug the
awesome people over at AFSA Technical Services for an informal
interpretation.

Taylor Schumacher 



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Subject: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

So I'm going 12 rounds with a local fire marshal who wants to define what
temporary parking means, under a drive through canopy. His logic is that he
doesn't know how long a vehicle will be parked.  His exact concerns are as
follows: "Our answer was yes do to deliveries made and not knowing how long
that vehicle would be sitting in that area...  delivery vehicles would be
sitting long periods of time and the code does not provide a time table for
temporary parking. It is my opinion that temporary parking would be of a
taxi/lift or other type drop off service and not delivery vehicles or any
other  type of parking. This was explained to you and your staff. How are
you going to enforce temporary parking? What is the time frame  for
temporary parking?"

I have not been able to find an unofficial code interpretation for this. I
believe he's incorporating too many "what if" scenarios. I was going to
respond what if a truck full of fireworks parks here? Should we protect for
extra hazard then?

Anyone have anything to help me convince him he's wrong? Should I pursue an
interpretation from AFSA or NFPA?

Thank you



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