Might want to rethink the truck full of fire works comment. Save it for the steering wheel when you are driving home. Appendix A.8.15.7.2 and A.8.15.7.5 NFPA 13 2013 Edition (yes Michigan is really moving on getting current) I feel explains it pretty well. Bruce
-----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> On Behalf Of Taylor Schumacher via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 1:45 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Taylor Schumacher <tay...@sfsprinkler.com> Subject: RE: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking AHJ's get really fun in a hurry when arguing semantics. Point this individual to a dictionary which will define temporary as "lasting for only a limited period of time; not permanent." If permanent parking is meant to assume parked for the night, it would be a REASONABLE assumption that a delivery driver would only ever be parked in a temporary fashion, not permanently. I think the term temporary was chosen in the standard for the sole reason of it not having a definite time. Otherwise it would have to be enforced and monitored. I have found that in situations like this, the only resolution is to bug the awesome people over at AFSA Technical Services for an informal interpretation. Taylor Schumacher -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> On Behalf Of John Irwin via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2021 12:26 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: John Irwin <jir...@quickresponsefl.com>; Aaron Peck <ap...@quickresponsefl.com>; Andrew Baldwin <abald...@quickresponsefl.com>; Roberto Alvarez <ralva...@quickresponsefl.com> Subject: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking So I'm going 12 rounds with a local fire marshal who wants to define what temporary parking means, under a drive through canopy. His logic is that he doesn't know how long a vehicle will be parked. His exact concerns are as follows: "Our answer was yes do to deliveries made and not knowing how long that vehicle would be sitting in that area... delivery vehicles would be sitting long periods of time and the code does not provide a time table for temporary parking. It is my opinion that temporary parking would be of a taxi/lift or other type drop off service and not delivery vehicles or any other type of parking. This was explained to you and your staff. How are you going to enforce temporary parking? What is the time frame for temporary parking?" I have not been able to find an unofficial code interpretation for this. I believe he's incorporating too many "what if" scenarios. I was going to respond what if a truck full of fireworks parks here? Should we protect for extra hazard then? Anyone have anything to help me convince him he's wrong? Should I pursue an interpretation from AFSA or NFPA? Thank you John Irwin<https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnrirwin/> Quick Response Fire Protection www.quickresponsefl.com Office: 844-9QUICKFL Cell: 727-282-9243 Main Office: 20545 Independence Blvd. Unit G Groveland, Florida 34736 West Coast: 15201 Roosevelt Blvd., Suite 113, Clearwater, Florida 33760 East Coast: 3133 Skyway Circle, Suite 104, Melbourne, Florida 32934 24 Hour Emergency Service Available 1-844-9QUICKFL "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten." - Benjamin Franklin _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org